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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:29 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Supplemental Vote Count:

Everything is the same as before except there's a bit less time remaining.

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:31 pm
by damo666
Thanks GM

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:45 pm
by Hamilton Brian
SO I see we're at three wagons now. I'll reread RDR and Fox. Anything else specifically suggested to look at? Rereading interactions with Ghug and Bo among the three main wagons (and more)?

Damo and Worcej, what compelled you to move off of me and on to Bob?

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:57 pm
by Hamilton Brian
Never mind, you two. Caught it.

##Vote BobMcBob

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:00 pm
by Foxcastle
Here's my VCA. I've left myself out, because someone else should do that for me.

EMC. EMC's Day 2 and 4 look townie. He went to Chaqa freely with four minutes to go (this was after Flash softed, but before he claimed), and in doing so, dropped the Hamilton wagon out of a 2-vote lead. On D4, he pushed Bo at a critical time, tying him for the lead wagon.

Bozo. Bozo could have been scum D1 watching town hang itself. On D2, he was on Flash, and then shifted to Chaqa just before Flash claimed—although Flash had softed a few couple minutes before, so maybe he saw the writing on the wall? He was voting for one of the contending wagons (Flash) and then said "I'm OK with any of the three" as he voted Chaqa. If he was okay with any of the three, why make put Chaqa in the lead? Maybe he saw Flash softing, wanted credit for bussing, but didn't want to create a rush off flash?

Durga. I think Durga is town, so someone else can go dig into her VCA, but she does push Chaqa at a critical time on D2.

Hamilton. D2, he was getting voted by both Chaqa and Ghug pretty much the whole last two hours before EOD. That makes me think it's pretty unlikely that Hamilton is scum.

Rdrivera. I don't think Rdr is scum, but his VCA isn't helping him. There's not much to read, but on D2, he sat on Yoyo and pushed Flash over Hamilton and Chaqa when they had all been tied.

Summit. If summit is scum, D1 was TvT, and he made several moves late in the day. I think scum-Summit would have been content to sit and watch. He also pushed Chaqa at a critical time on D2 (the second vote on the wagon 30 minutes out), but then didn't move off when Durga and TrP piled on, even though there was plenty of time to find somewhere else to land. He also pushed Bo at a critical time on D4.

TrPrado. D1 isn't much. D2 pushes Chaqa at an important time.

Worcej. Worcej's VCA isn't doing much for him. D1 and D4 don’t tell much. D2, he sat on Summit until 10 minutes out, then moved to Hamilton. It could be a move to protect Chaqa—if it is, it's Worcej being super clever, because the more obvious move to save Chaqa would have been to push Flash farther ahead.

Bob. Nothing worth noting. But Bo's D4 might be exculpatory for him. Bo voted for Bob immediately on D4 before disappearing for most of the day. That seems like iffy scum play if Bob is also scum, but I think it's within range of Bo's play.

So I think my preferred vote order is: Bozo > Worcej > TrPrado > Rdrivera > Summit > Bob > EMC > Durga > Hamilton

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:25 pm
by bozotheclown
Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:00 pm
Here's my VCA. I've left myself out, because someone else should do that for me.

EMC. EMC's Day 2 and 4 look townie. He went to Chaqa freely with four minutes to go (this was after Flash softed, but before he claimed), and in doing so, dropped the Hamilton wagon out of a 2-vote lead. On D4, he pushed Bo at a critical time, tying him for the lead wagon.

Bozo. Bozo could have been scum D1 watching town hang itself. On D2, he was on Flash, and then shifted to Chaqa just before Flash claimed—although Flash had softed a few couple minutes before, so maybe he saw the writing on the wall? He was voting for one of the contending wagons (Flash) and then said "I'm OK with any of the three" as he voted Chaqa. If he was okay with any of the three, why make put Chaqa in the lead? Maybe he saw Flash softing, wanted credit for bussing, but didn't want to create a rush off flash?

Durga. I think Durga is town, so someone else can go dig into her VCA, but she does push Chaqa at a critical time on D2.

Hamilton. D2, he was getting voted by both Chaqa and Ghug pretty much the whole last two hours before EOD. That makes me think it's pretty unlikely that Hamilton is scum.

Rdrivera. I don't think Rdr is scum, but his VCA isn't helping him. There's not much to read, but on D2, he sat on Yoyo and pushed Flash over Hamilton and Chaqa when they had all been tied.

Summit. If summit is scum, D1 was TvT, and he made several moves late in the day. I think scum-Summit would have been content to sit and watch. He also pushed Chaqa at a critical time on D2 (the second vote on the wagon 30 minutes out), but then didn't move off when Durga and TrP piled on, even though there was plenty of time to find somewhere else to land. He also pushed Bo at a critical time on D4.

TrPrado. D1 isn't much. D2 pushes Chaqa at an important time.

Worcej. Worcej's VCA isn't doing much for him. D1 and D4 don’t tell much. D2, he sat on Summit until 10 minutes out, then moved to Hamilton. It could be a move to protect Chaqa—if it is, it's Worcej being super clever, because the more obvious move to save Chaqa would have been to push Flash farther ahead.

Bob. Nothing worth noting. But Bo's D4 might be exculpatory for him. Bo voted for Bob immediately on D4 before disappearing for most of the day. That seems like iffy scum play if Bob is also scum, but I think it's within range of Bo's play.

So I think my preferred vote order is: Bozo > Worcej > TrPrado > Rdrivera > Summit > Bob > EMC > Durga > Hamilton
You did not cover why you think I would have bussed bo_sox D4.

I voted for Chaqa D2 to break what I thought was a three way tie at 5. I had not seen flash's vote yet that made it 6-5-4.

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:40 pm
by Durga
##vote Bob
##vote end

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:54 pm
by damo666
##end

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:14 am
by worcej
Also willing to ##end

I don’t see this day giving us more information from Bob and what does come can be discussed in night phase

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:20 am
by rdrivera2005
Fine to me.

##end

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:00 am
by dargorygel
GM NOTE
We are two end votes short... And I am not staying up to watch. So if we get to six "ends" please immediately stop posting. Jamie or I will finish the day when we see the vote. But kindly self regulate. Thanks

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:52 am
by Hamilton Brian
Where have I seen this played out before? Durga,If Bob flips town, are you willing to get hung next?

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:02 am
by Durga
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:52 am
Where have I seen this played out before? Durga,If Bob flips town, are you willing to get hung next?
No? I don't even want bob I want rdr. Wtf, why me?

I'm ending on bob because the day is dead and we have enough miskills that it doesn't actually matter.

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:05 am
by Hamilton Brian
Given where we’re at and what we currently know, I’m going to break my own rule and

##end

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:06 am
by Hamilton Brian
Durga wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:02 am

I'm ending on bob because the day is dead and we have enough miskills that it doesn't actually matter.
Just bitter recent memory.

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:08 am
by Durga
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:06 am
Durga wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:02 am

I'm ending on bob because the day is dead and we have enough miskills that it doesn't actually matter.
Just bitter recent memory.
i mean, our clear PR is ending here, so don't worry too much

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:12 am
by summit_fever
I'll end if I can know the result now.

##CALL GM

You around?

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:13 am
by summit_fever
summit_fever wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:12 am
I'll end if I can know the result now.

##CALL GM

You around?
Well that's not fair of me
##end

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:13 am
by summit_fever
##unend
##vote bob
##end

Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:15 am
by summit_fever
NO POSTING