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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:54 pm
by brainbomb
dargorygel wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:22 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:11 pm
This thread is like just a giant shit storm of stuff that is gonna turn off new ppl from wanting to join. talk about butterflies or something cook
Are you suggesting we cook butterflies? What effect would that have?
MMMMM YUM

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:00 pm
by ND
I just read that correspondence and I am pretty upset this is being done. I think it is a gross abuse of power actually.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:01 pm
by ChippeRock
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:54 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:22 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:11 pm
This thread is like just a giant shit storm of stuff that is gonna turn off new ppl from wanting to join. talk about butterflies or something cook
Are you suggesting we cook butterflies? What effect would that have?
MMMMM YUM
I don't think anybody's ever said that to you brainbomb...

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:04 pm
by brainbomb
ND is not bothered by Presidential Executive orders to keep children in cages like dogs.

but thinks excluding cuckeerock from a game is outrageous

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:32 pm
by damo666
ChippeRock wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:20 pm
@Jamiet, this was my correspondence with Neph. Perhaps this will address your question?
Nephthys wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:13 am
Hey,

I am writing to you as the GM of Mafia 47.

In the previous game you insinuated that you had gamed the system and found a way to subvert the rules. I believe, and my co-GM agrees with me, that this move was against the spirit of the game. I therefore am requesting that you, on the sign up thread, make a statement that you will not attempt to subvert the rules this game.

Note that this is only regarding to trying to bypass the rules that are in place to allow all players to enjoy the game.

By all means I am not trying to push you out of this game and welcome you to the game. That being said, I want it enjoyable for all.

If you have any questions or concerns then feel free to get in touch.

Nephthys
ChippeRock wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:36 pm
I wasn't intending to: it wouldn't work a second time.

I thought Jamiet's argument on how little information my claim provided was pretty good; could you provide a detailed argument on why Jamiet's argument is wrong and that somehow my claim gave me an unfair advantage?
Nephthys wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:52 pm
That is encouraging to hear.

What you did was not overtly against the rules, as Jamie pointed out multiple times. However, the rules of the game, from my perspective at least, are only part of the code that we play by. Like morality, this secondary code is not enforced in a legal sense although the disregard for it will often lead to a negative experience of those around.

I believe that your actions directly created a negative playing experience for an overwhelming majority of the players (many of them voiced this).

GMing, I have discovered, takes a lot of effort. I have put many hours into this game with the intention that I can provide a positive experience to all playing. Therefore any situation that could negatively impact that causes me concern. That is why I have asked this of you.
ChippeRock wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:56 pm
So you agree it's not against the rules and is unpunishable?
Nephthys wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:03 pm
I believe it breaks rule 0.

0. The GM reserves the right to adjudicate individual scenarios that arise during the course of the game at his discretion.
ChippeRock wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:57 pm
That's a really grey area rule...
Nephthys wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:04 pm
Be that as it may, I am telling you that I consider it broken. Are you prepared to make the statement?
ChippeRock wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:16 pm
I already told you I don't plan on trying it again - as it wouldn't work a second time.
Nephthys wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:21 pm
I was talking about a public statement on the sign up thread.
ChippeRock wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:31 pm
I refuse to make any more unnecessary additional statements regarding the matter. Especially not ones that I have to parrot back something that I've already stated.
Nephthys wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:12 am
I can respect your response. However I will ask you to respect mine.

We have decided to exclude you from this game due to your response to my, in our opinion, reasonable request to maximize the experience for all players. I am making a post in the sign-up thread to inform the other players of this decision.

This only applies to this game.
To my mind this posting is tantamount to aquiescing to the request whilst saving face. Chippe plays. Now put this to bed.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:33 pm
by foodcoats
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:43 am
Players
1. Durga - CONFIRMED
2. foodcoats - CONFIRMED
3. EspressoPatronum - CONFIRMED
4. Vaporwave - CONFIRMED
5. worcej - CONFIRMED
6.Percy Williams - CONFIRMED
7. damo666 - CONFIRMED
8. Jamiet99uk - CONFIRMED
9. ND - CONFIRMED
10. Vecna - CONFIRMED
11.rdrivera2005 - CONFIRMED TOWN
12. xorxes - CONFIRMED
13. bozo - CONFIRMED
14. FlaviusAetius - CONFIRMED
15. Chaqa
16. Flash2015 - CONFIRMED
17. bo_sox48 - CONFIRMED
18. Dargorygel - CONFIRMED
19. Foxcastle - CONFIRMED
20. EMC - CONFIRMED
21. Mike213 - CONFIRMED
22. chippee bitch Confirmed
23. brainjam CONFIRMED
24.
25.
26.
27.
28.

Substitutes:
1. MoscowFleet
2. ItsHosuke
reportin fer doodie

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:35 pm
by damo666
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:57 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:36 pm
I agree to abide by the rules.

All players should post this.

If Chips does likewise he should then play.

That way everyone is treated equally.
No, everybody need to agre not only to abide by the rules but also to abide to GMs requests as he is the authority in applying the rules. I didn't like many of Worcej calls last game but respected all of them.
Do you agree to abide by the rules or not? If the GM asks you to remove your pants would you?

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:40 pm
by foodcoats
And can I get a TLDR of the last 10 pages of webdramz with my popcorn plz

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:46 pm
by brainbomb
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:40 pm
And can I get a TLDR of the last 10 pages of webdramz with my popcorn plz
http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/upload ... unches.gif

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:46 pm
by damo666
I'm pissed (drunk you morons, not angry) but this is outrageously stupid. It's a fucking guessing game Some people are clearly have more intellect than others but so what? It's a fucking GAME. I enjoy Brian's madness, Xorxes' brilliance, Balki's bollocks, Jamie's angst, Vecna's wisdom, worcej's sniping and Chip's nonsense. I also find it hilarious ND is a double Masters. Are they like apples?

And for the love of god/universe/whatever

It is "have" not "of" you fucking ignoramus.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:47 pm
by damo666
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:40 pm
And can I get a TLDR of the last 10 pages of webdramz with my popcorn plz
Fascism basically

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:49 pm
by damo666
Anyone up for a chat?

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:54 pm
by TrPrado
Players
1. Durga - CONFIRMED
2. foodcoats - CONFIRMED
3. EspressoPatronum - CONFIRMED
4. Vaporwave - CONFIRMED
5. worcej - CONFIRMED
6. Percy Williams - CONFIRMED
7. damo666 - CONFIRMED
8. Jamiet99uk - CONFIRMED
9. Vecna - CONFIRMED
10. rdrivera2005 - CONFIRMED
11. xorxes - CONFIRMED
12. bozo - CONFIRMED
13. FlaviusAetius - CONFIRMED
14. Flash2015 - CONFIRMED
15. bo_sox48 - CONFIRMED
16. Dargorygel - CONFIRMED
17. Foxcastle - CONFIRMED
18. EMC - CONFIRMED
19. Mike213 - CONFIRMED
20. Fluminator - CONFIRMED
21. brainbomb CONFIRMED
24.
25.
26.
27.
28.

Substitutes:
1. MoscowFleet
2. ItsHosuke

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:54 pm
by rdrivera2005
damo666 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:35 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:57 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:36 pm
I agree to abide by the rules.

All players should post this.

If Chips does likewise he should then play.

That way everyone is treated equally.
No, everybody need to agre not only to abide by the rules but also to abide to GMs requests as he is the authority in applying the rules. I didn't like many of Worcej calls last game but respected all of them.
Do you agree to abide by the rules or not? If the GM asks you to remove your pants would you?
Probably not, unless they give me a good reasoning, but I have removed it before in an airports where its way more embarrassing.
My point is that Chiipie just don't give a shit about GMs and about making the game less enjoyable for the other players as long as it's not explicitly against the rules. This isn't how we should play.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:59 pm
by damo666
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:54 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:35 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:57 pm


No, everybody need to agre not only to abide by the rules but also to abide to GMs requests as he is the authority in applying the rules. I didn't like many of Worcej calls last game but respected all of them.
Do you agree to abide by the rules or not? If the GM asks you to remove your pants would you?
Probably not, unless they give me a good reasoning, but I have removed it before in an airports where its way more embarrassing.
My point is that Chiipie just don't give a shit about GMs and about making the game less enjoyable for the other players as long as it's not explicitly against the rules. This isn't how we should play.
You don't find his posting of entire conversation tantamount to acquiescence? On a secondary note I'm sorry to hear of your travel experiences.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 am
by Tom Bombadil
Think of it like the GMs are the hosts of a party and a bunch of people are showing up to their house for the shindig. The hosts spend a bunch of time cleaning the house, cooking flavorful food and making sure everything is ready for a good party that everyone will enjoy.

Then they find out that half of the guests don’t like one guy who wants to come. They guy isn’t a felon or anything, he’s just unpleasant and rude to the other guests. The hosts don’t want their guests to have a bad time, or their party to be ruined, so they decide not to invite him. Maybe when Bob down the street hosts a party then Bob can invite whoever he wants.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:29 am
by Tom Bombadil
Also, an “abuse of power” requires someone to have power.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 am
by ND
Yes this is an abuse of power, but whatever nothing I can do about it. It's sad to see it come to this though.

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:34 am
by damo666
It's my pardee and I'll cry if I want to.....

Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction, Sign Ups

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:35 am
by ChippeRock
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 am
Think of it like the GMs are the hosts of a party and a bunch of people are showing up to their house for the shindig. The hosts spend a bunch of time cleaning the house, cooking flavorful food and making sure everything is ready for a good party that everyone will enjoy.

Then they find out that half of the guests don’t like one guy who wants to come. They guy isn’t a felon or anything, he’s just unpleasant and rude to the other guests. The hosts don’t want their guests to have a bad time, or their party to be ruined, so they decide not to invite him. Maybe when Bob down the street hosts a party then Bob can invite whoever he wants.
Your describing a invite-only game.

This is a party where all strangers are supposed to be allowed to party; it shouldn't reject certain people.