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M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
@flav why the heck did you townread xorx so hard?
you sound so aggressive and whiney at the same time.
you sound so aggressive and whiney at the same time.
Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
EoD4 copypasta READS:
I'm typing this up as I'm likely the lynch for d4. I'm vt. Xorx and I are morons for fighting that much. I'm going to go apologize to him for this in the godthread, and durga for lynching her, and maybe to foxcastle for making his nice little quaint Maine game into a knife fight.
That said, if you're anyone (including people -ahem- in the godthread) who was so sold on the idea that this MUST have been MvT, consider what you can learn from this game about how to read interactions. good people can be wrong sometimes. sometimes evil wins by doing nothing. (I once described this game to a friend as "the trolling olympics" ...wherein people troll themselves.)
"Tunnelling is town's worst enemy." This is primarily when you scumread someone so much that you forget to do anything else in the game. But this applies to your townreads too.
Xorx was right when he said:
...:READS:...
e.m.c^42 - WASH - I still need to re-read this guy... but it might not matter now that I'm dead. he looked scummy to me on d1. he disappeared d2 and for what felt like most of d3. I'm not sure why you guys call him einstein. Voting as late as he does is bad play all around. His posts do seem genuine, however, both when he's poking around for clues and when he's showing up to apologize for lurking (which isn't great, but it does feel genuine). When he is here, he's engaged. he's pushing. he's prodding. Recall that I said (based on EoD1 patterns) that there'd be exactly one scum in the teacon/emc/moscow group. I don't think that scum is emc.
MoscowFleet - SCUM He's lurky and that's not good news for us. This is off his meta. I really should have noticed this before d4, and I'm sorry for it. His early greetings to me felt a bit like a buddy. I like this guy out of game, so I'm pretty susceptible to buddying. He's usually more active in the game...but now? He's lurky and "going with the flow" which is pretty scum indicative. moscow acted on and preached the "it's T or X so do both" line of thinking becuase "there must be one scum among them." He is most certainly smarter than that. I'd give him the highest probability of being scum of the bunch, tbh. see my post/reasoning on pg 87.
ND - TOWNLEAN unless moscow flips scum. his d1 actually felt really towny - because I figured he was VT playing a lightning rod for reactions. Since then he stopped playing as much, which doens't look good - why continue playing if things were going well? (XvT being a town disaster) If ND is actually scum, imo he deserves to win this game. He's smart enough to realize I'm town. he's also smart enough to say so and argue so in order to look better upon my flip. in my read his alignment is contingent on moscow flipping scum, as ND largely ignored moscow the whole game, and when I brought up stuff on moscow in d4 discussion, ND changed the subject to emc. If moscow flips scum, I'd put ND at slight scum, and re-read the hell out of their connections. (why start a vash wagon at EoD? it's not like vash (who was on the fence abt me) is going to move for that). it's not like I'm guessing they have casual townleans on each other.
Percy Williams - NULL, which imo ought to be a functional scumlean when you're in lylo. I don't know this guy and tbh he's not posted enough this game for me to find out. I tried to probe moscow a little bit more d4, but couldn't figure out how to deal with the same issue with percy. it might be a deal with the times he's able to connect and post... not sure. I can't even grab onto somethign he's said to push further. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt primarily because he's posted original thoughts when he can check in, he was nice to me about the XvT was TvT thing, and his contributions He's great example of why nulls ought to be functional scumleans in lylo.
teacon7 - VANILLA TOWN for cryin' out loud. holy moly. good or bad at it, this is like the towniest game I've ever played. I'm sad because I'm never going to be able to play this way as scum, and I'm certain that I won't be able to be this invested when I play in m46 because my RL calendar is nuts.
FlaviusAetius - SLIGHT SCUM - I really really want him to be scum because then I would be justified in lynching him. mostly, he's really annoying and latches on to other people's arguments, then pushes them.... without making much sense. His "reasons" for cases are largely that "someone else scumread them first" or "that's scummy" (without saying why). maybe 1/4th of his post content is namecalling, rather than reasoning.
I'd have scumread him a lot harder d2 if I didn't have to defend myself from xorx, because flav was doing more or less the same thing I felt xorx was: making a case, pushing for a lynch, and then finding the reasons for it later. the 2/4th of what he's doing is repeating other people's arguments, and 1/4 seems mildly original. Look into the couple posts where he used radically bigger vocabulary ... he said "determinant" ... I want to play with that flav. not the one who uses ad hominem or
VashtaNeurotic - TOWNLEAN. on reread, he sounds like he's trying trying to make sense of the game, commenting with original thoughts on posts, and engaging in back and forth with people. He's defending himself and his actions (which is NAI, but vash is volunteering new information that gets him even MORE hate from people, which doesn't seem like maf psych to do at this point in the game). I don't see how any of his EoD actions aren't easily explainable by being town under the gun.
lynch order:
moscowfleet >>> ND(if MF is scum) = flav > emc > percy > vash = ND(if MF isn't scum)
I'm typing this up as I'm likely the lynch for d4. I'm vt. Xorx and I are morons for fighting that much. I'm going to go apologize to him for this in the godthread, and durga for lynching her, and maybe to foxcastle for making his nice little quaint Maine game into a knife fight.
That said, if you're anyone (including people -ahem- in the godthread) who was so sold on the idea that this MUST have been MvT, consider what you can learn from this game about how to read interactions. good people can be wrong sometimes. sometimes evil wins by doing nothing. (I once described this game to a friend as "the trolling olympics" ...wherein people troll themselves.)
"Tunnelling is town's worst enemy." This is primarily when you scumread someone so much that you forget to do anything else in the game. But this applies to your townreads too.
Xorx was right when he said:
There's a temptation to scumread people who post and screw up. Fine. nail them to the wall. But when you're in lylo, don't forget that people can easily lurk their way to victory hiding in the shadows while you tear your brothers apart.
...:READS:...
e.m.c^42 - WASH - I still need to re-read this guy... but it might not matter now that I'm dead. he looked scummy to me on d1. he disappeared d2 and for what felt like most of d3. I'm not sure why you guys call him einstein. Voting as late as he does is bad play all around. His posts do seem genuine, however, both when he's poking around for clues and when he's showing up to apologize for lurking (which isn't great, but it does feel genuine). When he is here, he's engaged. he's pushing. he's prodding. Recall that I said (based on EoD1 patterns) that there'd be exactly one scum in the teacon/emc/moscow group. I don't think that scum is emc.
MoscowFleet - SCUM He's lurky and that's not good news for us. This is off his meta. I really should have noticed this before d4, and I'm sorry for it. His early greetings to me felt a bit like a buddy. I like this guy out of game, so I'm pretty susceptible to buddying. He's usually more active in the game...but now? He's lurky and "going with the flow" which is pretty scum indicative. moscow acted on and preached the "it's T or X so do both" line of thinking becuase "there must be one scum among them." He is most certainly smarter than that. I'd give him the highest probability of being scum of the bunch, tbh. see my post/reasoning on pg 87.
ND - TOWNLEAN unless moscow flips scum. his d1 actually felt really towny - because I figured he was VT playing a lightning rod for reactions. Since then he stopped playing as much, which doens't look good - why continue playing if things were going well? (XvT being a town disaster) If ND is actually scum, imo he deserves to win this game. He's smart enough to realize I'm town. he's also smart enough to say so and argue so in order to look better upon my flip. in my read his alignment is contingent on moscow flipping scum, as ND largely ignored moscow the whole game, and when I brought up stuff on moscow in d4 discussion, ND changed the subject to emc. If moscow flips scum, I'd put ND at slight scum, and re-read the hell out of their connections. (why start a vash wagon at EoD? it's not like vash (who was on the fence abt me) is going to move for that). it's not like I'm guessing they have casual townleans on each other.
Percy Williams - NULL, which imo ought to be a functional scumlean when you're in lylo. I don't know this guy and tbh he's not posted enough this game for me to find out. I tried to probe moscow a little bit more d4, but couldn't figure out how to deal with the same issue with percy. it might be a deal with the times he's able to connect and post... not sure. I can't even grab onto somethign he's said to push further. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt primarily because he's posted original thoughts when he can check in, he was nice to me about the XvT was TvT thing, and his contributions He's great example of why nulls ought to be functional scumleans in lylo.
teacon7 - VANILLA TOWN for cryin' out loud. holy moly. good or bad at it, this is like the towniest game I've ever played. I'm sad because I'm never going to be able to play this way as scum, and I'm certain that I won't be able to be this invested when I play in m46 because my RL calendar is nuts.
FlaviusAetius - SLIGHT SCUM - I really really want him to be scum because then I would be justified in lynching him. mostly, he's really annoying and latches on to other people's arguments, then pushes them.... without making much sense. His "reasons" for cases are largely that "someone else scumread them first" or "that's scummy" (without saying why). maybe 1/4th of his post content is namecalling, rather than reasoning.
I'd have scumread him a lot harder d2 if I didn't have to defend myself from xorx, because flav was doing more or less the same thing I felt xorx was: making a case, pushing for a lynch, and then finding the reasons for it later. the 2/4th of what he's doing is repeating other people's arguments, and 1/4 seems mildly original. Look into the couple posts where he used radically bigger vocabulary ... he said "determinant" ... I want to play with that flav. not the one who uses ad hominem or VashtaNeurotic - TOWNLEAN. on reread, he sounds like he's trying trying to make sense of the game, commenting with original thoughts on posts, and engaging in back and forth with people. He's defending himself and his actions (which is NAI, but vash is volunteering new information that gets him even MORE hate from people, which doesn't seem like maf psych to do at this point in the game). I don't see how any of his EoD actions aren't easily explainable by being town under the gun.
lynch order:
moscowfleet >>> ND(if MF is scum) = flav > emc > percy > vash = ND(if MF isn't scum)
Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
darn it i spent a lot of time typing that up, so i was fo sho gonna post it.
Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
just as a note we are past deadline here so I am going to stop posting until Fox does.
Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
---...gentleman's agreement to hold while we wait for Foxcastle to get here?...---
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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
Just don't feel it. Lynch nd first tho i may have missed sonething
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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
=====PHASE HAS ENDED, PLEASE HOLD=====
(Sorry for the delay, didn’t have service for a bit out here in the wild...)
(Sorry for the delay, didn’t have service for a bit out here in the wild...)
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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
Preliminary Vote Count
VashtaNeurotic (4): Percy Williams ND FlaviusAetius e.m.c^42
teacon7 (2): VashtaNeurotic MoscowFleet
MoscowFleet (1): teacon7
Let me know ASAP if you see any error
VashtaNeurotic (4): Percy Williams ND FlaviusAetius e.m.c^42
teacon7 (2): VashtaNeurotic MoscowFleet
MoscowFleet (1): teacon7
Let me know ASAP if you see any error
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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
VASHTANEUROTIC HAS BEEN LYNCHED. He was Thomas Malwerth, the Vanilla Townie!
=====Night 4 has begun, you may post====
=====Night 4 has begun, you may post====
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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
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its emc and teacon. Thats that. No one talk or then scum can talk with each other.
its emc and teacon. Thats that. No one talk or then scum can talk with each other.
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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread
the most honorable thing scum could do rn is NK me. give us a chance.
@flav not sure if this is one of the things you're aware of but:
nighthammering has to be unanimous. not majority. if scum wants to talk, they just don't vote to end the night.
@flav not sure if this is one of the things you're aware of but:
nighthammering has to be unanimous. not majority. if scum wants to talk, they just don't vote to end the night.
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