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Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:05 am
by Vecna
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:03 am
Ezio wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:43 am
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:31 am
Verifying dargorygel was not the assassin increases the doubt about emc's claim. Also, with the loss of Percy, I do not think we can afford to lynch incorrectly between Ezio and emc. With 2 scum left, RagingIke is a good scum candidate, and lynching him leaves the alien controlling only 3 votes D6, so we can lynch the alien D6.
I don't think ike is a good scum candidate anymore.
I am not willing to let the alien control 4 votes D6.
Dude, its fucking obvious whats happening here isnt it?
Help me push EMC into the grave
##vote EMC
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:13 am
by Vecna
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:30 am
Since we will probably only have one mislynch going into D7, I am willing to make some assumptions. First, I will assume that the mafia did not try to use the RB to clear a scum with so many powerful town PRs and useful items. This eliminates Vecna and RagingIke. Second, I will assume that Jamie would not take out xorxes unnecessarily and reveal worcej just for town credit. Third, I will assume thamrick would not go out of his way to prevent a mislynch of the lazy cop. This leaves LordQuas, Nephthys, and Vaporwave as the likely scum. It occurred to me that Nephthys and Vaporwave both misused there items from a town perspective. I think a town would want to hold the Alien Manipulation Ray in case he was about to be mislynched in a close vote. Vaporwave wasted the item D1, something that was not helpful to town. Nephthys said he used the Triage Kit to protect Percy N4 despite the fact that Percy said he was going to protect himself. Nephthys could have protected rdrivera or me N4, or he could have held the item unit N5, where it turns out he could protect me so I could report another scan.
My guess is that Nephthys is the Secretary and Vaporwave is the Assassin. I still think it is necessary to lynch RagingIke today so that the alien does not control 4 votes D6 if we were to lynch incorrectly between Ezio and emc.
My recommended lynch order is:
1. RagingIke (to make sure the alien does not win)
2. alien
3. Nephthys
4. Vaporwave
5. LordQuas
I disagree with this on so many levels
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:15 am
by Vecna
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:03 am
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:59 am
Ezio wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:06 am
So earlier today, I had a nice interaction with LQ where LQ said he understood my position and he thought it was too unlikely a story to be true, but he was not going to go against the town to push his position.
This interaction was BEFORE the two most critical pieces of information gained today
1: Bozo scanned me. If I survive I will be a townclear going into the endgame.
2: Darg was not the assassin. This makes my claim significantly more likely to be true.
AFTER this information was public and someone else started the endvotes, Lord Quas decides he was going to push his own agenda and continue the endvote train. That is scummy.
It's important to remember, Scum tried to NK EMC on night 2 (EMC's retraction is horseshit). Scum have known all along that EMC was actually the alien, but they're perfectly content to see a mislynch first, particularly now that mislynch will be on a townclear.
Can we just lynch EMC already?
Ezio is being so damn towny all of a sudden. I really dont get how people arent seeing it.
Your town read Ezio wants us to lynch Ike
Only because he thinks the thing he really wants is unreachable
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:21 am
by Nephthys
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:05 am
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:03 am
Ezio wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:43 am
I don't think ike is a good scum candidate anymore.
I am not willing to let the alien control 4 votes D6.
Dude, its fucking obvious whats happening here isnt it?
Help me push EMC into the grave
##vote EMC
Yea, my logic agrees this is the right thing to do, especially with the withdrawn claim
@Ezio can y'all answer my questions though?
##vote emc
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:25 am
by Vecna
Its confirmed now that Rdrivera is coming back tonight.
So were going to have 9 votes tomorrow.
Ezio actually wants this plan. So even if he was the alien, he'd know there would be no way around his death tomorrow. Yet what does he do? He goes on a justice-powered-rageboner-crusade to prove his innocence. He goes and scumhunts (there would be no point to this as alien). He's been more towny than the rest of us combined.
Fuck the plan. Just look at the play.
Compare it to EMC who has been off all game. Who in all likelihood was outed to scum on D2 and in a panicky fit just claimed he was protected from a nightkill to prevent scum from outting upon death that they had found the alien. And now is retracting that claim now that Neph and Percy both have used their save elsewhere (And MF definately wouldve claimed to have saved EMC and confirmed his as town pr at the time of his death - heck, he wouldve used that fact to SAVE his ass).
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:29 am
by Vecna
Even if im being a complete idiot here, and totally wrong, and Ezio has me pocketed like a little baby kangaroo, and this is some devillish crazy clever plan by Ezio....
I still dont wanna go along with it and give him some out tomorrow.
I want it to be 100% crystal clear by the end of today who is the damn alien, with no possible way around it.
Im betting my sweet ass all the scum are either hopping onto Ezio (because they KNOW they NK'd EMC N2 and want that extra mislynch) - or theyre spread over Ezio and Ike in the likely case that Ike is simply town here.
Both give scum exactly what they want.
Taking the gamble to lynch the likely alien straight away today gives us an extra day of hunting scum.
Lynch EMC.
Powerrant over
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:38 am
by Vecna
Also, lets not forget that EMC still has an unknown item spot, and that he -might- have the alien heat gun.
If we go along with Ezio's plan, EMC could win outright tomorrow with it.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:39 am
by Vecna
Wait, thats actually not true if we lynch ike, is it?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:50 am
by bozotheclown
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:13 am
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:30 am
Since we will probably only have one mislynch going into D7, I am willing to make some assumptions. First, I will assume that the mafia did not try to use the RB to clear a scum with so many powerful town PRs and useful items. This eliminates Vecna and RagingIke. Second, I will assume that Jamie would not take out xorxes unnecessarily and reveal worcej just for town credit. Third, I will assume thamrick would not go out of his way to prevent a mislynch of the lazy cop. This leaves LordQuas, Nephthys, and Vaporwave as the likely scum. It occurred to me that Nephthys and Vaporwave both misused there items from a town perspective. I think a town would want to hold the Alien Manipulation Ray in case he was about to be mislynched in a close vote. Vaporwave wasted the item D1, something that was not helpful to town. Nephthys said he used the Triage Kit to protect Percy N4 despite the fact that Percy said he was going to protect himself. Nephthys could have protected rdrivera or me N4, or he could have held the item unit N5, where it turns out he could protect me so I could report another scan.
My guess is that Nephthys is the Secretary and Vaporwave is the Assassin. I still think it is necessary to lynch RagingIke today so that the alien does not control 4 votes D6 if we were to lynch incorrectly between Ezio and emc.
My recommended lynch order is:
1. RagingIke (to make sure the alien does not win)
2. alien
3. Nephthys
4. Vaporwave
5. LordQuas
I disagree with this on so many levels
Can you be more specific? Who do you think are the remaining scum?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:54 am
by bozotheclown
It does concern me that Vecna has survived this long and is not making any attempt to identify the scum.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:17 am
by Vaporwave
One question Vecna,
if supposedly emc is alien, WHO IS ALIEN COP?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:19 am
by Vaporwave
bozo, me as assassin? I would have shot Jamiet's ass right when he wanted to force my vote
assassion? I would have pulled the trigger into Percy's head cause we need no revival
bozo, shake yourself out of this tinfoil
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:22 am
by Vaporwave
dargo was scum assassin, stop denying reality
secretary is either thamrick/Vecna
or Quas
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:46 am
by Ezio
Vaporwave wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:22 am
dargo was scum assassin, stop denying reality
secretary is either thamrick/Vecna
or Quas
Hey vaporwave, have you been following the game here? You do know the assassin shot percy this phase right?
Darg has been confirmed NOT the assassin.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:49 am
by Vecna
Im more concerned lynching EMC today and stopping this ridiculous plan of lynching Ike.
I could make some more random statements about why I think certain persons are scum or town, but im nowhere near certain enough atm, and I do not want the distraction and even more vote fragmentation here.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:50 am
by Vecna
Vaporwave wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:22 am
dargo was scum assassin, stop denying reality
secretary is either thamrick/Vecna
or Quas
wtf?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:50 am
by Vecna
Ezio wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:46 am
Vaporwave wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:22 am
dargo was scum assassin, stop denying reality
secretary is either thamrick/Vecna
or Quas
Hey vaporwave, have you been following the game here? You do know the assassin shot percy this phase right?
Darg has been confirmed NOT the assassin.
Why the fuck are you so passive here?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:52 am
by Vecna
Jump on EMC and get going with this wagon
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:55 am
by Ezio
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:50 am
Ezio wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:46 am
Vaporwave wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:22 am
dargo was scum assassin, stop denying reality
secretary is either thamrick/Vecna
or Quas
Hey vaporwave, have you been following the game here? You do know the assassin shot percy this phase right?
Darg has been confirmed NOT the assassin.
Why the fuck are you so passive here?
I'm not sure what you mean by passive
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:56 am
by Vaporwave
Vecna wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:50 am
Ezio wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:46 am
Vaporwave wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:22 am
dargo was scum assassin, stop denying reality
secretary is either thamrick/Vecna
or Quas
Hey vaporwave, have you been following the game here? You do know the assassin shot percy this phase right?
Darg has been confirmed NOT the assassin.
Why the fuck are you so passive here?
He's so right tho, I've logged in and moved to last page and commented