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Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:23 am
by thamrick
Enjoy your break Rivera. See you in 72 hours.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:23 am
by thamrick
thamrick wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:23 am
Enjoy your break Rivera. See you in 72 hours.
To be clear, this is not me CC'ing medicine man.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:25 am
by thamrick
##VOTE Ezio

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:26 am
by thamrick
Though I'm very much not a fan of how EMC is playing his PR role if he really is a PR.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:39 am
by Ezio
Ok bois.

Here's the problem. We can verify 100% which one of E.M.C or I is the alien. If each of us are on our own wagon, only one of these wagons will have extra votes at EoD. Whomever that is is 100% the alien.

The only problem with this plan is the number of votes.

We're at 11 people.

2 scum
1 alien (with 3 votes)

so town only has 6 votes right now. If town misses on scum for this lynch town will need mafia to vote the alien with them to win. To be fair, mafia need to lynch the alien as well as the mafia have no way to kill the alien in the endgame as the alien would have more votes than everyone else and mafia can't NK alien.

In my opinion, we can rely on game theory here to ensure we don't mislynch the town player between me and E.M.C

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:41 am
by thamrick
Does anyone have the alien heat gun?

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:43 am
by Ezio
I know y'all are 10000% confident and cocky that I'm absolutely confirmed the alien, but I ask you all to consider what the cost is of following through with this plan.

yes, if we mislynch a townie it puts us in a position where the mafia can throw the game to the alien, but it's still a guarantee the mafia will lose the game from that position.

It does, however, guarantee we don't mislynch a town here.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:44 am
by Ezio
Oh and so everyone knows, I went on a ride last night.

I'm willing to bet RD switched myself and him. Sadly he made this play pretty obvious with how heavily he was "alien-reading" me.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:47 am
by thamrick
Ezio wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:43 am
I know y'all are 10000% confident and cocky that I'm absolutely confirmed the alien, but I ask you all to consider what the cost is of following through with this plan.

yes, if we mislynch a townie it puts us in a position where the mafia can throw the game to the alien, but it's still a guarantee the mafia will lose the game from that position.

It does, however, guarantee we don't mislynch a town here.
Sorry. What's your plan?

Are you saying we should all self-vote or unvote (if that's allowed?) and only have you and emc vote yourselves?

I actually mildly believe you Ezio, strange as that seems.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:50 am
by Ezio
thamrick wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:47 am
Ezio wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:43 am
I know y'all are 10000% confident and cocky that I'm absolutely confirmed the alien, but I ask you all to consider what the cost is of following through with this plan.

yes, if we mislynch a townie it puts us in a position where the mafia can throw the game to the alien, but it's still a guarantee the mafia will lose the game from that position.

It does, however, guarantee we don't mislynch a town here.
Sorry. What's your plan?

Are you saying we should all self-vote or unvote (if that's allowed?) and only have you and emc vote yourselves?

I actually mildly believe you Ezio, strange as that seems.
No. I'm saying we should scumhunt today, just like a regular game.

The only important part is that E.M.C and I are on different wagons. It makes it easier to see if E.M.C and I are on our own wagons, but everyone else still can be trying to catch scum.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:57 am
by Vaporwave
##VOTE Ezio

you do realize that nobody has cclaimed him?

Your theory that dargo is alien cop and he peeked or found this out, then used dargo's role feels a bit stretched.

I think you took his nick Einstein too literally.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:02 am
by Vaporwave
will say again, if Ezio is alien after all (at this points, he makes a perfect candidate) I think he should be remembered for games to come, even put a crown of glory on his head

He fights til the end, comes up with various theories and does a fine acting with being surprised.

Ezio has given spice to this game by hardclaiming D1 and managing to survive til D5, but now it's time to chant ''off with his head''

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:10 am
by Ezio
Vaporwave wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:57 am
##VOTE Ezio

you do realize that nobody has cclaimed him?

Your theory that dargo is alien cop and he peeked or found this out, then used dargo's role feels a bit stretched.

I think you took his nick Einstein too literally.
"When you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth".

E.M.C would have been CC'd if the alien cop was still in the game. He hasn't been CC'd. I know I'm not the alien, so he MUST be lying.

Are you not curious at all about him being "saved" N2? Percy didn't save him. How did he survive the NK?

FURTHERMORE, what is the cost to verifying who is lying? Mafia MUST lynch the alien with town for them to win the game, so it is clearly optimal play for town.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:13 am
by Ezio
Ezio wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:10 am
Vaporwave wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:57 am
##VOTE Ezio

you do realize that nobody has cclaimed him?

Your theory that dargo is alien cop and he peeked or found this out, then used dargo's role feels a bit stretched.

I think you took his nick Einstein too literally.
"When you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth".

E.M.C would have been CC'd if the alien cop was still in the game. He hasn't been CC'd. I know I'm not the alien, so he MUST be lying.

Are you not curious at all about him being "saved" N2? Percy didn't save him. How did he survive the NK?

FURTHERMORE, what is the cost to verifying who is lying? Mafia MUST lynch the alien with town for them to win the game, so it is clearly optimal play for town.
Ok in theory Percy also have been lying about being the doc. Percy's claim seems much more solid than E.M.C's though. Darg would have have to have been the doc, and if RD doesn't come back to life today he'll be outed pretty clearly, so I think it's safe to assume Percy isn't faking.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:35 am
by Vaporwave
I'm not voting for emc, I think it's in your best interest to get rid of him if you're alien :razz:

You can try and convince others,

if another plan arises and people agree, I'll unvote and choose someone else.
your biggest enemy is Jamiet, try to seduce him, use incantations, use aphrodisiac perfume to distract him if you want to survive

he won't have rest until you're lynched

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:40 am
by Ezio
Vaporwave wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:35 am
I'm not voting for emc, I think it's in your best interest to get rid of him if you're alien :razz:

You can try and convince others,

if another plan arises and people agree, I'll unvote and choose someone else.
your biggest enemy is Jamiet, try to seduce him, use incantations, use aphrodisiac perfume to distract him if you want to survive

he won't have rest until you're lynched
I'm not asking you to vote for E.M.C.

Did you read my plan? You should spend today scumhunting, not alien-hunting.

E.M.C and I will end today on different wagons, likely it's best for us to end on our own wagons for it to be completely clear which one of us has more votes than the other. That person is the alien. There is then no chance for a mislynch.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:42 am
by Vaporwave
You should offer a few of the scumspects, you've done that D1 gimmick for a reason, no?

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:56 am
by dargorygel
##GM NOTE
VOTE COUNT 5.1

Ezio (3) Jamiet, thamrick, Vaporware
e.m.c.^2 (1) Nephthys


No End votes
Non-voters: bozo, emc, Ezio, LQ, Percy, Ike, Vecna

Ezio is scheduled for an appointment with death.
LOTS of time left.

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:38 am
by RagingIke297
##vote Ike

Remember that my vote and probably another is headed somewhere else today

Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:39 am
by thamrick
RagingIke297 wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:38 am
##vote Ike

Remember that my vote and probably another is headed somewhere else today
Boooooooooooo