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Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:24 pm
by Tom Bombadil
Yeah, I think it was a bit two sided, but not too much. A lot of things could have gone wrong.
As for how I was sure about Jamie and brain...I wasn’t. Lol. If you read the godthread, I sent my thoughts in. Basically I would never fakeclaim Cop unless this situation happened. 1) I was docsaved - this means Doc can confirm me so it’s less likely real Cop would counterclaim me. 2) there were a lot of experienced players so good odds Cop wasn’t an idiot or newbie. 3) I was pretty sure they thought I was cop which implicated Jamie.
As for brain, he was just super scummy. I don’t know why he played like that (but I actually forgot about desperado so I didn’t plan on having to come up with a second scan lol)
Jamie conceding instead of countering really helped.
And Neph saving me was the only reason I could try this. It really solidified my scumread on Jamie
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:25 pm
by peterlund
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:20 pm
peterlund wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:19 pm
peterlund wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:13 pm
Well, I at least succeeded to get the real doc to CC with my fake claim. I thought that if I am going to die I could get something for my scum team AND if I was really lucky I would even be able to survive this EoD. But I did not expect the real cop to scan such an insignificant lurker as I though.
And I also got the cop to out too, so I am quite happy!!
((((didn't the cop out b/c the game was over...))))
DoubtingThomas
Day-4 00:04
page 227 / orig i am cop i have guilty on peter
inno on yavu (crimson)
inno on damo666
looks like vapor surrendered
The cop outed 4 min before deadline.
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:25 pm
by worcej
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:18 pm
worcej wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:14 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:10 pm
nah I remmeber looking at the setup and thinking "wow this is town sided"
prolly remove one town PR, there's just too many and too strong ones. Compare it to something like d6 and this looks BUSTED
who was vengeful btw?
Bozo was.
I was trying to give Town something that would be respected as powerful to make scum play a little cautiously. I think if darg, tom, or DT made any different choices, this game had the chance to be a landside win against town.
If I could do it over, I would have done an SK instead, but you live and learn and I’ll be better next time :)
I mean yeah ofc if the PRs UNIVERSALLY all played bad AND the town fucked it wolves could have rolled
but there is just too many clears for town, and wolves just don't have any good counterplay
when a GF is known to be in a game it's really not that much stronger then a VT, and in a lot of cases (like this game) it isn't stronger at ALL
the role oracle is an incredibly nerfed role cop, which just should have been a role cop tbh
the roleblocker was good
but just in a 1 to 1 matchup of PRs look how far behind scum are, Doc and RBer are fairly aight matchups, and oracle and vengeful are about matched, but an entire Cop vs. GF is super favorable to town and then they also get a desperado thrown in for free
just straight remove desperado and game is still prolly slightly town sided imo
Well, I guess it is what it is. I can only get better at making setups going forward.
I am pleased at how much participation happened early - it was fun to watch the reads people made and executed on
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:25 pm
by Ezio
Just a quote from the mafia QT. This is why xorxes is, in fact, god:
"it is always possible that Tom is not the cop, he guessed we tried to kill him because we thought he was the cop with a scan on Jamie, claimed the scan on Jamie and Jamie believed it, then got it right with brainbomb. If that's the case then maybe Ike is the real cop and he has lots of scans to screw us several times over. How about that for a theory?"
- Xorxes
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:26 pm
by LordQuas
Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:24 pm
Yeah, I think it was a bit two sided, but not too much. A lot of things could have gone wrong.
As for how I was sure about Jamie and brain...I wasn’t. Lol. If you read the godthread, I sent my thoughts in. Basically I would never fakeclaim Cop unless this situation happened. 1) I was docsaved - this means Doc can confirm me so it’s less likely real Cop would counterclaim me. 2) there were a lot of experienced players so good odds Cop wasn’t an idiot or newbie. 3) I was pretty sure they thought I was cop which implicated Jamie.
As for brain, he was just super scummy. I don’t know why he played like that (but I actually forgot about desperado so I didn’t plan on having to come up with a second scan lol)
Jamie conceding instead of countering really helped.
And Neph saving me was the only reason I could try this. It really solidified my scumread on Jamie
that was one of the best executed fake claims I've seen so gratz either way
still eagerly awaiting my scum rand on this site
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:27 pm
by worcej
Ezio wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:25 pm
Just a quote from the mafia QT. This is why xorxes is, in fact, god:
"it is always possible that Tom is not the cop, he guessed we tried to kill him because we thought he was the cop with a scan on Jamie, claimed the scan on Jamie and Jamie believed it, then got it right with brainbomb. If that's the case then maybe Ike is the real cop and he has lots of scans to screw us several times over. How about that for a theory?"
- Xorxes
I died when I saw that post.
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:27 pm
by LordQuas
peterlund wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:25 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:20 pm
peterlund wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:19 pm
And I also got the cop to out too, so I am quite happy!!
((((didn't the cop out b/c the game was over...))))
DoubtingThomas
Day-4 00:04
page 227 / orig i am cop i have guilty on peter
inno on yavu (crimson)
inno on damo666
looks like vapor surrendered
The cop outed 4 min before deadline.
dude it's in the post, Vapor had surrendered lol
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:27 pm
by dargorygel
yavuzovic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:21 pm
Looks like something happened. I had unexpected guests and couldn't participate - it was real life issues. I will read what happened tomorrow.
Nothing happened
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:27 pm
by LordQuas
dargorygel wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:27 pm
yavuzovic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:21 pm
Looks like something happened. I had unexpected guests and couldn't participate - it was real life issues. I will read what happened tomorrow.
Nothing happened
game is slow
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:30 pm
by DoubtingThomas
yavuzovic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:21 pm
Looks like something happened. I had unexpected guests and couldn't participate - it was real life issues. I will read what happened tomorrow.
I claim cop have guilty on you
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:31 pm
by RagingIke297
Ezio wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:25 pm
Just a quote from the mafia QT. This is why xorxes is, in fact, god:
"it is always possible that Tom is not the cop, he guessed we tried to kill him because we thought he was the cop with a scan on Jamie, claimed the scan on Jamie and Jamie believed it, then got it right with brainbomb. If that's the case then maybe Ike is the real cop and he has lots of scans to screw us several times over. How about that for a theory?"
- Xorxes
So I was getting somewhere
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:32 pm
by Ezio
I am proud. The god QT never mentioned me, except for once to say I was online.
Furthermore, I'm quite pleased with my reads this game on exactly every account, mostly thanks to peter's updated read list at the end there.
Maybe one day I'll be able to justify my scumreads.
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:39 pm
by peterlund
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:27 pm
dude it's in the post, Vapor had surrendered lol
Well done town, you've eliminated us
Well I missed that in the rush at the end...
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 pm
by LordQuas
peterlund wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:39 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:27 pm
dude it's in the post, Vapor had surrendered lol
Well done town, you've eliminated us
Well I missed that in the rush at the end...
lol tbh I did too until I saw dt point it out
no big haha
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:12 pm
by RagingIke297
Can we have a discussion about the whole green check / red check thing and why its terrible now?
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:21 pm
by Ezio
Well, the red/green check thing successfully hid DT well enough for him to not get NK'd instead, so I'd say it worked perfectly xD
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:26 pm
by Vecna
wow. That sure is an explosive ending to this game. Happy it happened though, it was pretty obvious we had this in the bag bigtime and people seemed to already go into cruise to victory mode.
WP to nearly everyone. Exciting stuff.
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:29 pm
by dargorygel
RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:12 pm
Can we have a discussion about the whole green check / red check thing and why its terrible now?
Now? It's always been terrible.
I felt like we were speaking Russian.
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:46 pm
by e.m.c^42
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:51 pm
Can't believe I didn't ask this at the very beginning, but was I correct in thinking that the scum players don't know who each other are during Day 1? Didn't read anything about it, they're finding out who each are are about now, right?
I wish this was a thing now lmao
A mafia game except it's like public press: mafia don't know each other, town don't know each other, and both town and mafia can use the mafia chat XD
that would cause so much paranoia
Re: Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:47 pm
by peterlund
RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:12 pm
Can we have a discussion about the whole green check / red check thing and why its terrible now?
Being scum I ofc jumped on it, as I would know that my buddies would disregard my "green checks" and that me taking part would maybe encourage the real cop to continue with his accurate green/red checks.
I have not thought through if this can be good for town. Maybe if every town are in on this scheme...