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So, using wikipedia I noted that Spanish is listed as "de facto official" in both Argentina and Chile, which might've been interpreted as not official by the QM and might've been te question with the surprising answer the QM referred to.

If we believe this theory to be plausible, do we want to spend a question on it.

I will note that because of periods of rule, the most famous options I could think of (Allende and Pinochet for Chile, Peron for Argentina) do not work.

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:43 pm

Born in Africa?

No

JECE wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:59 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:43 pm

Born in Africa?

No

Okay so we're looking for a South American leader.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:13 pm

JECE wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:59 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:43 pm

Born in Africa?

No

Okay so we're looking for a South American leader.

Probably from Chile or Suriname

damo666 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:21 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:13 pm

JECE wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:59 pm

No

Okay so we're looking for a South American leader.

Probably from Chile or Suriname

Not Suriname. Wrong hemisphere.

Did this person serve as president or prime minister of Chile?

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:33 pm

Did this person serve as president or prime minister of Chile?

No

modderpoel wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:45 pm

So, using wikipedia I noted that Spanish is listed as "de facto official" in both Argentina and Chile, which might've been interpreted as not official by the QM and might've been te question with the surprising answer the QM referred to.

If we believe this theory to be plausible, do we want to spend a question on it.

I will note that because of periods of rule, the most famous options I could think of (Allende and Pinochet for Chile, Peron for Argentina) do not work.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Pa%C3%ADses_donde_el_espa%C3%B1ol_es_idioma_oficial#Espa%C3%B1ol_como_idioma_oficial_de_facto

So in that case, probably an argentinian president

modderpoel wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:45 pm

So, using wikipedia I noted that Spanish is listed as "de facto official" in both Argentina and Chile, which might've been interpreted as not official by the QM and might've been te question with the surprising answer the QM referred to.

If we believe this theory to be plausible, do we want to spend a question on it.

I will note that because of periods of rule, the most famous options I could think of (Allende and Pinochet for Chile, Peron for Argentina) do not work.

I realize that there may be a language barrier to research this, so here is a good list:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Pa%C3%ADses_donde_el_espa%C3%B1ol_es_idioma_oficial#Espa%C3%B1ol_como_idioma_oficial_de_facto

Oh, uruguay as well

JECE wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:45 pm

modderpoel wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:45 pm

So, using wikipedia I noted that Spanish is listed as "de facto official" in both Argentina and Chile, which might've been interpreted as not official by the QM and might've been te question with the surprising answer the QM referred to.

If we believe this theory to be plausible, do we want to spend a question on it.

I will note that because of periods of rule, the most famous options I could think of (Allende and Pinochet for Chile, Peron for Argentina) do not work.

I realize that there may be a language barrier to research this, so here is a good list:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Pa%C3%ADses_donde_el_espa%C3%B1ol_es_idioma_oficial#Espa%C3%B1ol_como_idioma_oficial_de_facto

Actually, the English version covers this too in the main table:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_where_Spanish_is_an_official_language

Well, it's narrowed down to presidents of Uruguay and Argentina within a rather small period, none of which strikes me as familiar. Looking at numbers, Carlos Menem and Raúl Alfonsín seem like the most likely to be chosen, where I give more odds to the later based on the first few lines in their respective wikipedia pages. I, however, know no nobody left on the list so will leave the guessing to others.

1. Real human (who is probably dead) more than 5 feet tall born in a country with 1 million plus present-day inhabitants.

2. Not born in Eurasia or North America.

3. known for serving in government, for being a military leader, for being an athlete, or for being a scientist, broadly defined (including mathematics and social sciences) or an inventor

4. South American or African

5. Not born north of the Equator

6. Not female

7. Known for being a governmental or military role

8. Current or former head of state and/or head of government

9. Did not hold a government role in a country where Spanish or Portuguese is an official language.

10. Not a Head of state/government for at least some time after the end of 2005.

11. Not head of state for South Africa, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Madagascar, Lesotho, Eswatini, Malawi, or the Comoros.

12. Born after 1800.

13. Not a dead person primarily associated with an African country that was also the country of his birth.

14. Not a head of state and/or head of government for at least some time between 1950 and 1978.

15. Associated with a country in whose territory he was born.

16. Not born in a location that was part of the British Empire at the time of his birth.

17. Not born in Africa.

18. Never Prime Minister or President of Chile.

Free guess:

Juan Domingo Perón

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:18 pm

Free guess:

Juan Domingo Perón

No

Is it someone who was a prominent figure in Argentina?

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:53 pm

Is it someone who was a prominent figure in Argentina?

Yes

Fair warning that I haven't counted the questions yet!

JECE wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:15 pm

Fair warning that I haven't counted the questions yet!

The one you just answered was Question #19