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Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:25 pm
by Percy Williams
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:30 pm
Maybe it's nothing.
It just seems weird he didn't seem to know what his claimed role was called.
Sorry, it's just the way I think. The medicine man is mechanically a doctor, reading that, I thought "great, I'm the doctor" and that's how it was in my head from then on. If you ask Vecna, in the Qt before I was forced to publicly claim, I demonstrated thorough knowledge of what my role does.
If you look back, I've been calling it doc or doctor all game, and have been fishing for some discussion on what the doctor should do so that I have something to help me make decisions. I don't think anyone has mentioned the doctor role more than me.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:52 pm
by bozotheclown
Vecna wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:04 pm
I really dislike your reasoning for your read on me Bozo. You ended up voting the exact same people on those days, and I started the MF wagon last day to save our doctor from having to out. And he was objectively the scummiest person left in the game and the most likely to direct the wagon away from our doc.
And why on earth would scum actually use the roleblock instead of just faking it, while they do not even have enough people to use their abilities, items and factional shit? What your stating would mean they never couldve used items, stolen items or activated the secretary. Saying they couldve gambled on "the driver hitting me" Those odds are super small with this many players still alive on N1.
Did you know who the Medicine Man was, and if not, how did you know MF was not the Medicine Man?
I voted for damo at EOD D1 to make sure there was not a tie and for MF to avoid being lynched myself, I was not pushing for either of them to be lynched.
Are you saying the Secretary has to take a night action to activate day chat? If so, that is not clear in the role description. On N1, xorxes had to perform the NK, and worcej was free to steal an item while the Secretary performed the RB.
On N2, RagingIke claimed the RB and emc claimed he survived the NK, which means worcej would not have been able to take an item. Do you think the mafia chose to use the RB over taking an item N2?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:55 pm
by bozotheclown
Percy Williams wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:25 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:30 pm
Maybe it's nothing.
It just seems weird he didn't seem to know what his claimed role was called.
Sorry, it's just the way I think. The medicine man is mechanically a doctor, reading that, I thought "great, I'm the doctor" and that's how it was in my head from then on. If you ask Vecna, in the Qt before I was forced to publicly claim, I demonstrated thorough knowledge of what my role does.
If you look back, I've been calling it doc or doctor all game, and have been fishing for some discussion on what the doctor should do so that I have something to help me make decisions. I don't think anyone has mentioned the doctor role more than me.
When did you tell Vecna you were the Medicine Man, and how did he suggest you use you power?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:03 pm
by bozotheclown
##CALL GM:
Does the Secretary have to take a night action to activate the day chat the following day? If so, was there a mafia day chat day 1?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:03 pm
by Jamiet99uk
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:52 pm
Are you saying the Secretary has to take a night action to activate day chat? If so, that is not clear in the role description. On N1, xorxes had to perform the NK, and worcej was free to steal an item while the Secretary performed the RB.
The secretary has an additional power. Go take a look.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:05 pm
by ND
##gm note
The day chat exists if secretary is alive it doesn't require an action.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:05 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Here, Bozo:
Secretary (1x): The Secretary allows the mafia to talk during the day.Additionally, once per game the Secretary may target a player to discover what action they took or did not take during the night phase. The Secretary appears as MJ-12 on cop scans. The Secretary wins with the mafia.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:06 pm
by bozotheclown
##CALL GM:
Does using an item at night count as a night action for the mafia, preventing a mafia PR from performing the NK or RB?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:07 pm
by bozotheclown
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:05 pm
Here, Bozo:
Secretary (1x): The Secretary allows the mafia to talk during the day.
Additionally, once per game the Secretary may target a player to discover what action they took or did not take during the night phase. The Secretary appears as MJ-12 on cop scans. The Secretary wins with the mafia.
Yes, I saw that, but the mafia would not necessarily want to use that action N1, since it is once per game.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:17 pm
by bozotheclown
I did not like LordQuas pushing Percy to start a wagon on me D4, it looked like he was trying to set up a mislynch while leaving Percy to get mislynched next.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:56 pm
by ND
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:06 pm
##CALL GM:
Does using an item at night count as a night action for the mafia, preventing a mafia PR from performing the NK or RB?
##GM NOTE: Players may use an item or role power or faction power in the case of the mafia. Players are basically limited to one action per phase.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:07 pm
by Jamiet99uk
ND wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:56 pm
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:06 pm
##CALL GM:
Does using an item at night count as a night action for the mafia, preventing a mafia PR from performing the NK or RB?
##GM NOTE: Players may use an item or role power or faction power in the case of the mafia. Players are basically limited to one action per phase.
This is interesting, because let's take a look at the Mafia vote rules from the rules post on page 1:
Mafia Vote: The third level of voting refers to Mafia members choosing their factional NK (nightkill) targets during Night phases. The mafia members will use their separate QuickTopic thread to discuss this. Please make your votes in bold, like so: kill Zultar (< b > kill Zultar < / b >). Mafia NK will be decided by majority vote. In the event of a tie, the oldest vote will break the tie. The Godfather is the member of the Mafia team that carries out the kill. If the Godfather is dead the Item Thief/Goon or Secretary will carry out the kill based on the oldest vote.
This means that, while Xorxes was alive, if he had an item that functioned at night, he would have to have held the NK in order to use his item.
##CALL GM: In this setup how is it determined which Mafia member carries out the Factional Roleblock?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:11 pm
by ND
##GM NOTE: Who determines who carries out the roleblock? One of the faction mafia members can make that command if they wish using the mafia voting rules.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:15 pm
by Nephthys
@bozo, can you go into additional detail about why you chose who you did for the scans
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:20 pm
by bozotheclown
Nephthys wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:15 pm
@bozo, can you go into additional detail about why you chose who you did for the scans
worcej was my top scum read D1, and I thought bo_sox was a scum possibility, and with it looking like he would be replaced, I thought it would be good to find the alignment of that slot. Unfortunately yavuzovic was NKed just as I found out he was clear.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:21 pm
by Percy Williams
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:55 pm
Percy Williams wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:25 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:30 pm
Maybe it's nothing.
It just seems weird he didn't seem to know what his claimed role was called.
Sorry, it's just the way I think. The medicine man is mechanically a doctor, reading that, I thought "great, I'm the doctor" and that's how it was in my head from then on. If you ask Vecna, in the Qt before I was forced to publicly claim, I demonstrated thorough knowledge of what my role does.
If you look back, I've been calling it doc or doctor all game, and have been fishing for some discussion on what the doctor should do so that I have something to help me make decisions. I don't think anyone has mentioned the doctor role more than me.
When did you tell Vecna you were the Medicine Man, and how did he suggest you use you power?
I anonymously claimed Doctor in the QT, so when I later publicly claimed QT, that was a message to Vecna that I was the doctor. He suggested that I hold the resurrection and cure, and to
maybe save a confirmed town
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:24 pm
by Percy Williams
Dang, looking out the window right now, Australia sucks
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:25 pm
by Percy Williams
Percy Williams wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:24 pm
Dang, looking out the window right now, Australia sucks
Totally unrelated action and thought.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:04 pm
by Vaporwave
Percy Williams wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:24 pm
Dang, looking out the window right now, Australia sucks
this is fake news
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:08 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Vaporwave wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:04 pm
Percy Williams wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:24 pm
Dang, looking out the window right now, Australia sucks
this is fake news
Is this sarcasm?