Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 7:45 pm
Yeah. I think food may have gotcha.
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I'm going to have to echo Food here somewhat. I don't really understand why me voting for Neph would make you think he's scum to a point you're doubling down on it. It all seems really forced, and possibly is a way to buddy me as you know I'm prone to being buddyable.xorxes wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 7:37 pmYou're way overanalyzing this. I voted for Neph because it felt good to do so with what I had so far at the time, and Chaqa having voted for him was an incentive because I did the same last game and it turned out to be a good hunch. You making such a huge deal of such triviality makes me confortable with my current vote.foodcoats wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 7:16 pm
I'm not inventing anything here. The below is your train of reasoning for voting Nephthys.
1. Chaqa's first vote last game was for dargorygel.
2. Last game, Chaqa was town, and dargorygel was scum.
3. This game, Chaqa's first vote was for Nephthys.
4. ?
5. Therefore, I, xorxes, will vote for Nephthys.
(4) is a question mark because you never expressly stated your leap in logic, but leap you did. It was precisely my point that you must presume Chaqa is town, or your original vote did not make sense for the reasons you gave, except for Neph's END vote being scummy.
You progressively elaborated on this idea by calling Chaqa a "litmus test," but what could that mean, in the context of sheeping Chaqa onto Neph, except that you believe Chaqa is town and has good scumdar? The only other explanation I have for the below is that you were justifying sheeping Chaqa. Are you saying that your proposal is we lynch Neph to evaluate the quality of Chaqa's scumdar?
My initial vote was not a complete joke, and Neph may very well be scum. I don't believe you're misunderstanding anything, I believe you understand perfectly well the extent of my seriousness and that you are just fabricating a lot of smoke.It seems to me that the below must be a contradiction. Interestingly, you have not claimed that your initial vote was a joke. Instead, you are insisting that your vote was motivated by other factors, and I am misunderstanding you. But which factors? If you do not think Chaqa is town, and further you do not think Chaqa has good scumdar, why did you sheep him onto Nephthys?
Geez, complimenting someone is not the same as buddying...summit_fever wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 8:02 pmHi Everybody!
Good town vibes off of kgray, chaqa and rdr.
Xorxes buddying Chaqa seems possible. Also may have tried buddying me.
Would like to see Bozo post some of his own thoughts.
Damo I just...I can see why you get scumread every game.
This is an odd response, since xorxes is obviously using "litmus test" in its metaphorical sense, which is closer to Chaqa's definition that the literal definition xorxes references.xorxes wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 1:59 amThat's not what a litmus test is, or at leats that's a very specialized meaning. It's a test for acidity or alkalinity using litmus. You are the litmus paper and I'm using you to test the scummicity or townicity of (in this case) Neph.
How are you familiar with Tom's reputation as a good player?kgray wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 12:07 amI just really don't think anyone would follow damo onto xorxes here...Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:29 pmI find (this is anecdotal- tbh I don’t know if the facts back this up or not, but I think they would) that even in joke phases, wagons can get started and stick. Let’s say two people followed onto xorxes. He becomes a wagon even if damo comes off.
If I were scum I'd be just as happy getting bozo lynched as xorxes, assuming they're both town. And actually, based on the last two times damo was scum, I'd assume scum!damo would rather keep xorxes alive since xorxes seems to always townread damo.It strikes me as odd that he moved from the bottom of the list up, and xorxes happens to be a player sum would LOVE to have mislynch Ed if he is town.
This is a good point. But, again, it requires xorxes to become an actual wagon first, and I can't see damo actually thinking it would happen.And even if xorx doesn’t get lynched, he becomes a wagon and anyone who is a wagon D1 will get the “someone protected his wagon” come d2.
Well, for one thing, your vote on damo was for a legitimate reason, whereas damo's was a policy/joke vote. And also, no offense meant to damo, but I think you've got a bit more of an influence than he does. I've never even played with you but I'm familiar with your reputation as a good player.Further if you are skeptical that people would follow damo and vote xorx, look how quickly people followed me onto damo
You can't be bothered to read the thread... because you already know everyone's alignment, so you don't need to? And how could any townie possibly trust others to tell them what's important?damo666 wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 6:03 pmStupid fucking comment. I clearly am saying I can't be bothered reading and am leaving it up to others to decide on the importance.kgray wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 2:23 pmWhy would you assume it will be talked about if it’s important? Shouldn’t you decide for yourself what is important?damo666 wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:15 am##vote summit
The point of this 'policy' voting is that we have a 5 post requirement instead of two. I tend to struggle to know what to post day 1 with nothing to go on so this should guarantee me at least some posts.
FWIW I am not yet getting any feel for anyone's alignment.
Boro's quotes without commentary are annoying. Without a comment to explain I don't bother reading tbh. If it's important I'm sure it will be talked about.
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What makes you say that about rdrivera?summit_fever wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 8:02 pmHi Everybody!
Good town vibes off of kgray, chaqa and rdr.
Xorxes buddying Chaqa seems possible. Also may have tried buddying me.
Would like to see Bozo post some of his own thoughts.
Damo I just...I can see why you get scumread every game.
Damo was scum in the game with the second quote. But these are pretty different scenarios. In that game I had misread what someone (bozo?) said and got things backwards. Here, I'm not misunderstanding anything - damo is literally saying he's not going to read the thread. Obviously I think that's scummy but I'm not sure how these two situations are related.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 6:13 pm
Just an overall vibe. His post regarding your posts resonated with me as well.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:24 pmWhat makes you say that about rdrivera?summit_fever wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 8:02 pmHi Everybody!
Good town vibes off of kgray, chaqa and rdr.
Xorxes buddying Chaqa seems possible. Also may have tried buddying me.
Would like to see Bozo post some of his own thoughts.
Damo I just...I can see why you get scumread every game.
Why is that suspicious? What scum motivation would xorxes have to get those facts wrong? I'd argue that scum would be more careful to be correct to avoid nonsensical heat like thisbozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:12 pmI think xorxes may be scum here. foodcoats has some good points and xorxes not bothering to get the facts correct about kgray's past games is somewhat suspicious.
##VOTE xorxes
