M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Balki Bartokomous]

Especially if you are town, this needs to be our last game together. Jamiet made some criticisms of your play that I would echo. You come off continually as condescending and egotistical—I can deal with the other personalities on this site, but something about yours resonates with me at a harmful frequency.

I'm going to try to forget this game now.

Well that’s not very nice.

I don’t play here very often, and I’ll take this to heart and start clear. Have a good one.

[Fluminator]

:/

[Fluminator]

Lets all remember how egotistical Ghug was. Everyone in this game is pretty tame compared to that bugger

[BunnyGo]

:/

I agree with this.

I reiterate my main point: town loses when we stop trusting each other, and start sniping. Stop with the hurt feelings, we're all trying. If you're scum, well played. If you're town, STOP IT! It's hurting morale, and hurting our chances.

[BunnyGo]

Lets all remember how egotistical Ghug was. Everyone in this game is pretty tame compared to that bugger

How egotistical was Ghug? (looking forward to the punchline)

[Fluminator]

Let's just say, in a D&D game I was in with him, he refused to heal anyone who didn't refer to him as "your majesty"

[Fluminator]

The character he was playing was a bit nicer though

[Jamiet99uk]

Lets all remember how egotistical Ghug was. Everyone in this game is pretty tame compared to that bugger

How egotistical was Ghug? (looking forward to the punchline)

A: FUCK GHUG

[rdrivera2005]

Oh, I am but a poor a humble washerwoman.

Who will take pity on me?

I don't want your pity, I want the remaining town to get out of this tunnel. But fine, let's play along. Me x Fox for today's lynch with everybody scumreading us both. Really hope Fox is scum so it's not a total waste of time.

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh, I am but a poor a humble washerwoman.

Who will take pity on me?

I don't want your pity, I want the remaining town to get out of this tunnel. But fine, let's play along. Me x Fox for today's lynch with everybody scumreading us both. Really hope Fox is scum so it's not a total waste of time.

What "tunnel" ?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not being facetious by the way.

I see some people scumreading Xorxes. I see some people scumreading you. I see some people scumreading Kgray. I see a lot of people scumreading Foxcastle. I have only started scumreading you on re-read recently. I also have suspicions about Fluminator.

Who is tunnelling?

[BunnyGo]

:/

I agree with this.

I reiterate my main point: town loses when we stop trusting each other, and start sniping. Stop with the hurt feelings, we're all trying. If you're scum, well played. If you're town, STOP IT! It's hurting morale, and hurting our chances.

Save the finger pointing and "never play with you again" for the GT after the game. For now...get your heads in the game! I consider this behavior very scummy.

[damo666]

Oh, I am but a poor a humble washerwoman.

Who will take pity on me?

I don't want your pity, I want the remaining town to get out of this tunnel. But fine, let's play along. Me x Fox for today's lynch with everybody scumreading us both. Really hope Fox is scum so it's not a total waste of time.

don't worry we will lynch kgray 2m

[BunnyGo]

I'm going to look at this Kgray case that Bozo and Bunny are banging on about, comments in a bit.

And?

[damo666]

##vote kgray

cats, pigeons

[rdrivera2005]

##vote kgray

cats, pigeons

Just to tie the wagons? .

##unvote

[rdrivera2005]

I don't like the no-lynch option. I still think Watcher is the weakest PR we could have and putting all our faith on him isn't a good choice. A lynch beside the chance of hitting scum also gives info, and Watcher still have at least two chances if he can stay alive. I understand Fox POV of a no-lynch being better then being myslynched if he is town, so I don't think it's scummy to suggest this

This said it's hard to choose between Fox and kgray. Fox votes looks scummier but his tone and his exchange with Balki seems town.
Kgray vote isn't great but he presents really solid arguments to justify v them. But her tone and reactions seems almost too controlled, too focused on logic.
My first option to vote today is still Xorxes, but if I have to choose right now, with no re-reading and no new info I will probably choose Fox.

[damo666]

##vote kgray

cats, pigeons

Just to tie the wagons? .

##unvote

Yeah, see what happens.

Gonna vote either F or k

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm going to look at this Kgray case that Bozo and Bunny are banging on about, comments in a bit.

And?

And I can see merit in some, but not all, of what Bozo posted, but it does not appear entirely accurate to me. I have not looked at your comments yet, Bunny. Let me comment on Bozo's observations first, which I shall do in a moment.

[Jamiet99uk]

What I find interesting about this post is that it occurred after emc and Chaqa were already wagons D3, but she had not previously indicated that Chaqa and emc were her top scum reads. She questioned Chaqa a little earlier D3, but Chaqa was already a wagon then as well, and she hardly mentioned emc previously.

I notice however that Kgray had actually made a fairly detailed post on page 92 about why she was finding Chaqa more suspect. So I would say the appearance of Chaqa in Kgray's scumreads a little later is less surprising than Bozo suggests.

With regard to EMC, Bozo's point is stronger, but again there on page 92 Kgray asks Worcej if EMC could be a scum lurker. It's not much but it's not nothing either.

Bozo's commentary about the vote moves appears accurate.

On the basis of this analysis by Bozo I would lessen my townread of Kgray, but at the same time, it's not a "gotcha!" either.