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by Restitution
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:13 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

I am hosting a test game for my version. If anybody wants to join, please PM me.
by Restitution
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

@RoganJosh, could you critique my version of 2TS? I'm going to call it "Proportional-2TS". The top 2 players in a game are allocated a share of the pot proportional to their share of the SCs. All other players then receive the remaining pot split equally among them. By "top 2 players", it is possibl...
by Restitution
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:52 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

jay65536, when you mentioned you designed this system for "tournament games", not "cash games" - do you think mine or Mercy's system would be better for cash games? Because, when it comes to implementing a system for webdip, all games are cash games.
by Restitution
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

I don't do Discord, so I can't join that link; but Restitution, if you get a bunch of people for a play-test, keep me apprised by PM. My original plan was to see if enough people PMed me about play-testing that I could organize a game or games myself, but maybe your way will yield better results. I...
by Restitution
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

Two-tier scoring is maybe not my first choice for an alternative, but at least it's an alternative. The reason 2TS is so good is because it elegantly completely removes the incentive for the top player to cut the draw, replacing it entirely with an incentive to nab centers. When I figured this out ...
by Restitution
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:04 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

https://discord.gg/qRH5Du

I made a new discord for anybody who wants to test 2ts.
by Restitution
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

tr1285 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:38 pm
I might even end up volunteering to implement the code for a new one if that's needed.
I can implement it too. I've spoken to JMO and bo_sox, and the bigger challenge is going to be proving that a 2-tier system is necessary, which will require testing.
by Restitution
Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:04 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

At the same time, because the top 2 powers' point totals will simply depend on their center counts, there is no real need for them to fight; while they don't care about draw-whittling, they also care less about competing. The 11-center powers don't care where they get their next centers from. Howev...
by Restitution
Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:04 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

I mean, it's not just the assumption that it could happen in the same game; it's the straight fact that I don't want a 7-center 3way to be worth more than a 7-center board top. In the set of all X-center finishes, I want board tops to be the highest possible score for all X. Okay, so, here is an am...
by Restitution
Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:52 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

I think I have come up with a better two-tier system. Though, maybe it was proposed earlier and I am just rephrasing: Given that a 17-SC finish should give exactly 50% of the pot, and given that no leader should earn less than 33.333% of the pot (because this is what they would make in a 3WD in DSS,...
by Restitution
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:08 am
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

jay65536 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:12 pm
stuff
Am I right in thinking that a leading player's score should be equal to their score in the worst-case 3wd? Or should it be equal to their score in the best-case 3wd?
by Restitution
Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

Jay: apologies if I’ve missed this, but could you spell out a little more why your top scores are what they are? I do think one reason your system feels complicated is that these values don’t have an obvious explanation. I agree, there's no clear reason why each SC count has a given score. This is ...
by Restitution
Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

stuff For the sake of my sanity, can you reformulate the system assuming that DIAS is true (which it is in webdip)? Also: I think it is tautologically true that if you want to reward small-SC powers making it to the draw, you *necessarily* also reward draw whittling, simply by virtue of scoring bei...
by Restitution
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

There's also this issue; in a 16-16-2 draw, the 2-sc player only gets 6% of the pot. In a 3wd scenario where 2 players are over the limit, everyone has the same incentive; just grab as many dots as possible. In a 3wd with 2 players over-limit, the game is just ppsc. And the 2-sc player will leave wi...
by Restitution
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

A solo is worth the full pot. In case of a draw, any player with more than 12 supply centers receives a proportion of the pot equal to the proportion of supply centers he or she controls. The rest of the pot is distributed evenly among the other surviving players. Actually, on further thought, this...
by Restitution
Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

I feel like I'd definitely have to go over the details every time I want to work out what my score is going to be. Yep. Ideally one should be able to, at a glance, determine how much score you will have if you take x, y, z centers or someone else takes those centers. This is one of my biggest probl...
by Restitution
Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Diplomacy Strategy
Topic: Two Tier Scoring
Replies: 61
Views: 1579

Re: Two Tier Scoring

Stuff I really like your changes! The original idea was cool but it was too complicated, simplifying it so there is only one conditional makes it easier to understand and actually use strategically. If there is a ton of interest in this, I might be down to implement it (though I have so many other ...
by Restitution
Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:43 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Official webDip Holiday: On the first day of Xmas, my zultar gave to me
Replies: 154
Views: 6403

Re: Official webDip Holiday: On the first day of Xmas, my zultar gave to me

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by Restitution
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:05 pm
Forum: Tournaments
Topic: Announcing the 2020 Masters Tournament
Replies: 112
Views: 30502

Re: Announcing the 2020 Masters Tournament

Will you post a message in global saying the games are good-to-go for both the R1 and R2 games?
by Restitution
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:41 am
Forum: Development
Topic: Simple Templating
Replies: 9
Views: 1754

Re: Simple Templating

I'm sorry for such a short statement. I thought it was clear but obviously it was only in my head. I'm thinking about making a redesign for the platform. Is there a simple way to alter the visual appearance of the platform as simple as in MVC-Apps? Depends what visuals you want to change and what y...