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Re: Game of Thrones

by TrPrado » Mon May 20, 2019 6:55 pm

Really glad they brought Edmure Tully back to be an important and absolutely essential character.

Re: Game of Thrones

by Fluminator » Mon May 20, 2019 5:56 pm

Gendry ending up on the throne is nice in that it goes full circle with a Baratheon ruler, but I would have preferred a character that was in every season of the show. I have mixed feelings.

Re: Game of Thrones

by TrPrado » Mon May 20, 2019 6:20 am

Wow, how crazy that Thanos ended up king of Westeros AND Essos. Wild.

Re: Game of Thrones

by Octavious » Thu May 16, 2019 12:20 pm

Sansa will be queen. She is one of the few candidates up to the substance of the job, and she has a lot of military support. Add a marriage of convenience to Baratheon's no longer a bastard for a bit of added legitimacy, and she's the full package.

Dragon girl is not long for this world. Maybe an assassination, but my guess is suicide by dragon fire, taking Snow with her. They both burn as her fire resistance magic bollocks fails as she wants to die / no longer considers herself worthy or some such tosh.

Re: Game of Thrones

by FlaviusAetius » Mon May 13, 2019 8:36 am

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 4:13 am
I know. If he had only fucked his aunt some more, thousands of lives would be saved.

Guys, if you turn your brain off and forget every bit of character development from the past few seasons, it was a good episode.
hundreds of thousands*
also agreed

Re: Game of Thrones

by goldfinger0303 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:13 am

I know. If he had only fucked his aunt some more, thousands of lives would be saved.

Guys, if you turn your brain off and forget every bit of character development from the past few seasons, it was a good episode.

Re: Game of Thrones

by Durga » Mon May 13, 2019 3:56 am

I fucking hate Jon Snow.

Re: Game of Thrones

by TrPrado » Mon May 13, 2019 2:47 am

Do these people really think the only thing we liked about the show was shock factor? I swear if this show ends with Jon on the throne I’m gonna fight someone, especially after Varys dropped the line that he’d rule “wisely and well”

Re: Game of Thrones

by Smokey Gem » Sun May 12, 2019 1:57 pm

Baby arryn for king ..he can breast feed form all the mums in the kingdom and everyone would think that was pretty good and normal considering the choises.

Re: Game of Thrones

by Foxcastle » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:26 pm

My guess is that they simply didn't plan far enough in advance. They only started setting up the conclusion last season, when really they needed two seasons to get everything in place for a finale season. The show has had two driving plotlines throughout: the white walkers and the political battles. Of the two, the political battle is the more interesting, because it's about characters. Yes, they drive characters to a lot of cool moments (like we saw in the last two episodes), but they are generally a narrower set of moments (determination, fear, etc). The white walkers are cool, but they're just a force of nature; you can't negotiate, be betrayed, be tricked, or otherwise do interesting things with them. Ideally, they would have intertwined those plots all the way through so that the whole show led up to an epic simultaneous conclusion. But once they had Daenerys choose to fight the white walkers—an iffy character choice anyway...—they lost that opportunity.

Also, the showrunners have gone soft. One of Brienne or Tormund, at least one Stark (preferably Jon), Gendry, Davos, one of Worm or Missandrei, and one of the living dragons should have died. Melisandre should have lived.

Re: Game of Thrones

by Vecna » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:51 am

Durga wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:06 pm
Honestly it was a well done episode. I just thought it was a stupid decision to end the NK plot at this point.
The strongest message/story ending this show couldve had would be along the lines of: "Look at you humans with your silly greed, your inconsequential plotting and power struggles, you brought all this on yourself".

Cercei's army shouldve backstabbed the the defending force. Allowing the Nightkill to win the battle. And wipe out Kings landing and the rest of the continent in the last few episodes. Have Cercei and Dany survive on some island to see how pointless their ambitions were.

Re: Game of Thrones

by Octavious » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:51 am

GoT plot summary

The nightwalkers are the park rangers of the world. Every now and then the population of humans grows a bit too much, typically at its worst after a particularly long summer, so a team of nightwalkers is sent to cull them. This is traditionally achieved by their tame human, affectionally called the three-eyed crow, gathering a significant number of fellow humans in one spot so the culling can be carried out quickly and efficiently.

Job done.

Re: Game of Thrones

by brainbomb » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:26 am

Wait no

Gendry gets pregnant with Aryas baby

Re: Game of Thrones

by brainbomb » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:25 am

Gendry dies in a battle at trident?


okay my imaginations gone off

Re: Game of Thrones

by brainbomb » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:23 am

Prediction

Arya dies next episode by Jaquen. But the death inadvertantly looks like it was an assassination paid for by Cersei. This ends up being why Sansa joins Dany and agrees to support her in her revenge claim.

as a result the Vale and the Riverlands join Dany.

Sam is sent home as Lord of House Tarly and gets tasked with raising an army from the reach and Dorne.

Arya dies after seeing Hot pie one last time.

Re: Game of Thrones

by FlaviusAetius » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:22 am

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:05 am
I was not under the impression that was the full Lannister army. There still seemed to be plenty manning the walls of Kings Landing when Dany shows up. I think even in the loot train episode they mention that over half the army has made it back to the city. "All the gold is safely through the gates of Kings Landing." So what is destroyed is merely the rearguard.

Cersei doesn't learn though. If she learned, she'd have changed once Tommen died. Instead she doubled down and lost Jaime instead. There has to be a consequence for decapitating the heads of half the major houses in Westeros and leaving the heads of the other half to die to a White Walker invasion. So far, I haven't seen one and doubt that we will. The show's stopped caring about having consequences to actions.
Sending her army to the North would have been the biggest mistake in her whole career. There were repercussions for killing half the major houses in Westeros, she had to fight a war, against them all, every last house. Except for half the ironborne.

What you don't get is that gold wins wars, no? She understood that lesson, and yea she isn't good at politics, not one bit, that's WHY she lost Jaime. That's WHY the entirety of Westeros turned against her. What IS she good at? War. Don't you remember, she LISTENED to the lessons Tywin gave her and jamie, that was about WAR. Not politics.

I agree consequences have become distant, there's still consequences, they just aren't that big of a deal anymores. I don't think this applies to what Cersei has done though.

Re: Game of Thrones

by goldfinger0303 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:05 am

I was not under the impression that was the full Lannister army. There still seemed to be plenty manning the walls of Kings Landing when Dany shows up. I think even in the loot train episode they mention that over half the army has made it back to the city. "All the gold is safely through the gates of Kings Landing." So what is destroyed is merely the rearguard.

Cersei doesn't learn though. If she learned, she'd have changed once Tommen died. Instead she doubled down and lost Jaime instead. There has to be a consequence for decapitating the heads of half the major houses in Westeros and leaving the heads of the other half to die to a White Walker invasion. So far, I haven't seen one and doubt that we will. The show's stopped caring about having consequences to actions.

Re: Game of Thrones

by FlaviusAetius » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:50 am

TrPrado wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:16 am
I would argue that somebody having a schtick of not being smart in their planning isn’t the best writing. She’s been punished so many times for bad decisions that at some point she has to learn from them as a human being. Her not being a static character isn’t bad plot.
and she has gotten smarter, especially since she has no one to compete with in Kings Landing, this is more up her alley I think

Re: Game of Thrones

by TrPrado » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:16 am

I would argue that somebody having a schtick of not being smart in their planning isn’t the best writing. She’s been punished so many times for bad decisions that at some point she has to learn from them as a human being. Her not being a static character isn’t bad plot.

Re: Game of Thrones

by FlaviusAetius » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:55 am

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:14 am
The fact that you used the words "Cersei" "winning" and "efficiently" means that it's a bad plot lol.

The whole storyline for Cersei in the books is that she thinks she's the smartest person in the room and in reality she's far from it. Every move she makes in other seasons backfires and has a real tangible consequence. Seasons 1-6 were extremely faithful to that logic. Season 7-8 Cersei has lost all of that. Or maybe we just haven't seen the full payoff of it. And no, Jon and Dany coming down with fire and blood doesn't qualify as payoff.
She lost the entirety of her loyal well-trained army for a mercenary company...it didn't backfire...? Yes. yes, it did.

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