Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[bozotheclown]

Purely on voting I put rdr kotp Bunny* and worcej as town

*although the brief dalliance on worcej looks wierd

I add Jamie and ghug to the town pool due to RB claims.

Why couldn't the jailer jail a mafia?

Oh yeah. Jamie and ghug exit towncore.

Thank you Bozo (though it doesn't town you ofc).

What if I said I thought there were only 3 mafia and that I did not realize "Barrel Maker" was a PR?

[Balki Bartokomous]

From what I can see Day 1, these folks are very likely all Town. That's a lot of people.

Jamiet
Bona
Sweet
rdrivera
Pirate
Bunnnygo

The ghug and worcej votes in the last 5 minutes feel a little too late. If a person were JustWill's partner in those minutes, I see it about 50/50 that they jump on the bus or try to steer away from JustWIll. It just appears, based on my read, that a Will scum partner wouldn't have felt super secure that they'd be able to save JustWill at that point, so I don't want to put ghug or worcej in the town core.

Did you explain how Jamie made your list without voting for Just?

Yeah, I did earlier. It's based on JustWill's treatment of him early in Day 1. Will makes a very unsupported snaptown read on Jamiet. It is the kind of thing that I think scum do because they know they are not wrong. It doesn't seem like something that someone does when they are pretending to be a real townie, and they know the person they are pointing to is not Town. When a scumbucket is explaining why a partner looks towny, early in a game, they are much more likely to have better reasoning.

[damo666]

Why couldn't the jailer jail a mafia?

Oh yeah. Jamie and ghug exit towncore.

Thank you Bozo (though it doesn't town you ofc).

What if I said I thought there were only 3 mafia and that I did not realize "Barrel Maker" was a PR?

I'd accuse you of impersonating Bona

[damo666]

buzz buzz buzz

[bozotheclown]

This confirms to me that you are definitely on the same team.

And since ghug likes to play Mafia in such a predictable way, this means more likely Town.

Hmph, I don't like it.

Why do they have to be on the same team?

I mean, I guess because I feel like neither would RB anyone but the NK.

It's possible they holstered the RB and one of them is lying and the other received brainbomb's NK.

You implied it confirmed they were on the same team, but not necessarily town. The jailer RB is completely NAI, so even if you assume one was RBed by the mafia, there is no reason to think they are on the same team.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why "exactly one"?

How many times do you need to repeat the same question after I already answered it?

I didn't think they were one the same team.

That makes one of them town, and the other one scum.

Do you require me to draw you a diagram?

I took your first answer to mean you did not think they were both town, but I did not see how it explained why they could not both be mafia.

Do you think that's possible?

Do you think Bona vs Just was scum theatre? Really?

[kingofthepirates]

Not much time left, and I suppose I need to cast my vote. I’m inclined to break the tie one way or the other. If either side is willing to drop a TLDR of reasons within 10 mins, I’ll read it and weigh the options. Will’s side has more reasons overall, so I’m inclined to go that direction right now. If no one drops anything, I’m going to

##Vote will

What did you think the reasons for suspecting Just were?

currently catching up, so I'm not sure if this question is still relevant or if you still want the answer. If you do, it is as follows: I don't remember the exact reasons, I'll have to check back through the logs, but I do distinctly remember that the other tiebreak (damo iirc) didn't seem to have any really concrete reasons for suspicion (I remember at least 1 vote was from the very start of the day, with no reasons given at all). I'll elaborate more once I have caught up.

[damo666]

buzz buzz buzz

[Jamiet99uk]

buzz buzz buzz

That's my line.

[bozotheclown]

From what I can see Day 1, these folks are very likely all Town. That's a lot of people.

Jamiet
Bona
Sweet
rdrivera
Pirate
Bunnnygo

The ghug and worcej votes in the last 5 minutes feel a little too late. If a person were JustWill's partner in those minutes, I see it about 50/50 that they jump on the bus or try to steer away from JustWIll. It just appears, based on my read, that a Will scum partner wouldn't have felt super secure that they'd be able to save JustWill at that point, so I don't want to put ghug or worcej in the town core.

Did you explain how Jamie made your list without voting for Just?

Yeah, I did earlier. It's based on JustWill's treatment of him early in Day 1. Will makes a very unsupported snaptown read on Jamiet. It is the kind of thing that I think scum do because they know they are not wrong. It doesn't seem like something that someone does when they are pretending to be a real townie, and they know the person they are pointing to is not Town. When a scumbucket is explaining why a partner looks towny, early in a game, they are much more likely to have better reasoning.

OK, but I think that could be WIFOM, Just knows not to be too obvious in pocketing town players as mafia.

[damo666]

buzz buzz buzz

That's my line.

buzz off

[bozotheclown]

How many times do you need to repeat the same question after I already answered it?

I didn't think they were one the same team.

That makes one of them town, and the other one scum.

Do you require me to draw you a diagram?

I took your first answer to mean you did not think they were both town, but I did not see how it explained why they could not both be mafia.

Do you think that's possible?

Do you think Bona vs Just was scum theatre? Really?

It does not seem likely now, but I would not rule it out yet.

[sweetandcool]

Why do they have to be on the same team?

I mean, I guess because I feel like neither would RB anyone but the NK.

It's possible they holstered the RB and one of them is lying and the other received brainbomb's NK.

You implied it confirmed they were on the same team, but not necessarily town. The jailer RB is completely NAI, so even if you assume one was RBed by the mafia, there is no reason to think they are on the same team.

I'm not thinking clearly.

I was thinking that if either was lying there was a risk of having three RB claims, which would out one as Mafia.

I only considered after that statement why one (or both) could be Mafia without risking that sort of situation.

[bozotheclown]

Not much time left, and I suppose I need to cast my vote. I’m inclined to break the tie one way or the other. If either side is willing to drop a TLDR of reasons within 10 mins, I’ll read it and weigh the options. Will’s side has more reasons overall, so I’m inclined to go that direction right now. If no one drops anything, I’m going to

##Vote will

What did you think the reasons for suspecting Just were?

currently catching up, so I'm not sure if this question is still relevant or if you still want the answer. If you do, it is as follows: I don't remember the exact reasons, I'll have to check back through the logs, but I do distinctly remember that the other tiebreak (damo iirc) didn't seem to have any really concrete reasons for suspicion (I remember at least 1 vote was from the very start of the day, with no reasons given at all). I'll elaborate more once I have caught up.

OK, thanks.

[Jamiet99uk]

I took your first answer to mean you did not think they were both town, but I did not see how it explained why they could not both be mafia.

Do you think that's possible?

Do you think Bona vs Just was scum theatre? Really?

It does not seem likely now, but I would not rule it out yet.

Alright.

You think that.

I would rule it out. Bona is town.

[kingofthepirates]

*quotes snipped*

OK, thanks.

Caught up now, do you want the full explanation?

[Balki Bartokomous]

My scumlist in order is

food
Balki
sparta
Brian
Bozo
Vecna

Would you please give us a couple of sentences explaining each of these reads?

[Chaqa]

GM Note:
Suddenly, a swarm of bees comes out of nowhere and sting someone to death!

"No you fool! Not the bees! They're MY BEES!"

Foodcoats has died! He was the Beekeeper!

[bozotheclown]

*quotes snipped*

OK, thanks.

Caught up now, do you want the full explanation?

OK

[Balki Bartokomous]

Ah!