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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2501 Post by KoalaAttack » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:31 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:34 pm
Damo and Chaqa both scum with Ghug makes zero sense to me.
I don't understand this. And yes, at this point I did read everything you said up to this post Rdr. Can you please explain / repeat / summarize the rationale?

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#2502 Post by President Eden » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:37 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:25 am
President Eden wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:56 pm
We finally doing this?

##VOTE TheFlyingBoat
President Eden wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:59 pm
##VOTE damo666

Boat vs damo vs Bunny (vs lfischl?) is an interesting D1.
Why was an interesting D1 better than DKing your top scum read?
Those quotes are four hours apart, and in the interim TFB did a pretty good job digging into damo. I have a vague recollection that I posted before EOD about why I liked TFB's development on damo (though I think most of what he did to prompt that admittedly happened after I switched off).

I can't remember exactly who was my top scumread at the point you quoted, but it was a few hours before EOD, and I definitely remember thinking that all those players were at least reasonable shots at being mafia, so I wasn't overly worried about which one yet. Ironically I ended up (I now think incorrectly) on Bona, who was not in the list at all

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#2503 Post by President Eden » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:37 am

Five hours apart, even

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#2504 Post by KoalaAttack » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:41 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:54 pm
That's a really good point to scum Damo. A town Damo knows a tie is worst then he being misskilled, unless he is Doc, in which case he would have claimed way earlier. Ghug-Damo-Chaga and a lurker, this makes sense?
Suspicious unless I misunderstood our earlier discussions with the group about by questions around RBs after the last miskill. Was the overarching sentiment not that Doc should not claim? Why is rdrivera suddenly saying a Doc should have claimed?

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#2505 Post by KoalaAttack » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:46 am

damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:02 pm
I thought ghug was town but voted

A) hoping for a tie
B) at least i know i'm town

Lot to digest.

G'night.
Question for the group – if you are Town, and you closely losing to another player you believe is Town, is it better to tie the vote or to sacrifice yourself but make the sacrifice worth it, knowing that your final words will be proven true as your "dying declaration"? (Thank you Daredevil TV show.)

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#2506 Post by President Eden » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:47 am

I'd like to revisit the fact that lfischl was straight up gone all day, then came in at the time you'd expect lurking scum to come in and vote me to save damo/ghug, then said he was going to go back and look at things then dipped all day and has been gone since.

I'd also like to add that that was literally the first time lfischl had ever mentioned me :lol:

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2507 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:53 am

KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:41 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:54 pm
That's a really good point to scum Damo. A town Damo knows a tie is worst then he being misskilled, unless he is Doc, in which case he would have claimed way earlier. Ghug-Damo-Chaga and a lurker, this makes sense?
Suspicious unless I misunderstood our earlier discussions with the group about by questions around RBs after the last miskill. Was the overarching sentiment not that Doc should not claim? Why is rdrivera suddenly saying a Doc should have claimed?
A town PR should claim to avoid an imminent mis-kill, and force the mafia to NK them. rdrivera meant damo would have claimed if he were the doctor to avoid getting mis-killed.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2508 Post by KoalaAttack » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:56 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:13 am
KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:58 am
worcej wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:06 pm
GHUG HAS DIED. HE WAS A MAFIA GOON!

Night 2 has begun. You may now post!
Hooray! Congrats and well done everyone!

Does this mean we have now extended our runway to have up to 3 miskills too? Or still not enough without 1 doc save per what Bozo said earlier?
No, DKing mafia does not change the no-kill situation. We would still need 2 saves to survive an additional mis-kill.
Thank you

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#2509 Post by KoalaAttack » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:00 am

Wait, wait wait.


brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:16 pm
Koala, just for the sake of math

its now 12 alive 3 are mafia

so if mafia kills a town successfully the game is 8 v 3
then if we miskill and scum gets another kill off it would be 6v3
and then 4 v 3

basicallys getting ghug gives us an extra miskill we can use on someone lurking if need be

this math gets messed up if swords gets modkilled and happens to be town


VS


bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:13 am
No, DKing mafia does not change the no-kill situation. We would still need 2 saves to survive an additional mis-kill.


So, to summarize, I have 2 of seemingly very experienced players telling me opposite things? Is this a Mafia slip by one of them?

Bozo & Brain – hi...

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#2510 Post by President Eden » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:01 am

KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:00 am
Wait, wait wait.


brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:16 pm
Koala, just for the sake of math

its now 12 alive 3 are mafia

so if mafia kills a town successfully the game is 8 v 3
then if we miskill and scum gets another kill off it would be 6v3
and then 4 v 3

basicallys getting ghug gives us an extra miskill we can use on someone lurking if need be

this math gets messed up if swords gets modkilled and happens to be town


VS


bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:13 am
No, DKing mafia does not change the no-kill situation. We would still need 2 saves to survive an additional mis-kill.


So, to summarize, I have 2 of seemingly very experienced players telling me opposite things? Is this a Mafia slip by one of them?

Bozo & Brain – hi...
I can't imagine it's a slip in any case, but bozo is correct. what brainbomb means is that we get an extra day because we didn't use one of our miskills (since we hit a mafia instead of a town).

think of this game as though you have X days to identify Y mafia, guessing one player each day, and getting an extra day for each correct guess

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#2511 Post by KoalaAttack » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:02 am

Princess Neon wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:19 am
Soon I will be the most hated person in this game
Welcome, and if you can outspam Bona I will be impressed. Please do not koalakoalakoala...

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#2512 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:03 am

President Eden wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:37 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:25 am
President Eden wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:56 pm
We finally doing this?

##VOTE TheFlyingBoat
President Eden wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:59 pm
##VOTE damo666

Boat vs damo vs Bunny (vs lfischl?) is an interesting D1.
Why was an interesting D1 better than DKing your top scum read?
Those quotes are four hours apart, and in the interim TFB did a pretty good job digging into damo. I have a vague recollection that I posted before EOD about why I liked TFB's development on damo (though I think most of what he did to prompt that admittedly happened after I switched off).

I can't remember exactly who was my top scumread at the point you quoted, but it was a few hours before EOD, and I definitely remember thinking that all those players were at least reasonable shots at being mafia, so I wasn't overly worried about which one yet. Ironically I ended up (I now think incorrectly) on Bona, who was not in the list at all
I think TFB voting damo for the reasons he gave was questionable, and he had not posted too much about damo at the time you moved your vote.

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#2513 Post by brainbomb » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:03 am

worcej wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:03 am
GM Note:
Princess Neon HAS REPLACED swordsman3003
hey neon! maybe we will get to talk more this game than last time
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#2514 Post by KoalaAttack » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:05 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:53 am
KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:41 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:54 pm
That's a really good point to scum Damo. A town Damo knows a tie is worst then he being misskilled, unless he is Doc, in which case he would have claimed way earlier. Ghug-Damo-Chaga and a lurker, this makes sense?
Suspicious unless I misunderstood our earlier discussions with the group about by questions around RBs after the last miskill. Was the overarching sentiment not that Doc should not claim? Why is rdrivera suddenly saying a Doc should have claimed?
A town PR should claim to avoid an imminent mis-kill, and force the mafia to NK them. rdrivera meant damo would have claimed if he were the doctor to avoid getting mis-killed.

I see, thanks for that.

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#2515 Post by KoalaAttack » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:07 am

President Eden wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:01 am
I can't imagine it's a slip in any case, but bozo is correct. what brainbomb means is that we get an extra day because we didn't use one of our miskills (since we hit a mafia instead of a town).

think of this game as though you have X days to identify Y mafia, guessing one player each day, and getting an extra day for each correct guess
Right – so the runway is indeed extended, but the number of remaining miskills available remains static? Is that correct?

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#2516 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:14 am

President Eden wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:11 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:59 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:14 pm
Lol some days I swear I have to catch the whole team to make people comfortable with me being town.

I’m just gonna tell myself it’s because you’re all TERRIFIED of my eventual rolling scum :razz:

Good finds on ghug’s posts brain, I’ll take a look at that in a bit. I don’t really see how TFB can be mafia if damo is but in a world where damo is town, maybe?
Statistically one day you need to rand scum. Have you ever been scum here?
It's been five years and counting
If I remember that game correctly, you and your mafia teammate bussed each other D2 even though it was a 2 mafia game. If you are mafia with ghug, damo, and TFB, there was a lot of distance voting going on, and your ghug and damo cases N1 could have been something you planned with the mafia team. My theory is that damo was annoyed with TFB pushing him for reasons a town player would be unlikely to do, then having to give questionable vote justifications for not voting for TFB.

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#2517 Post by brainbomb » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:14 am

I have no idea what bozo is talking about we would
not do a no kill. there is absolutely no reason to no kill unless there was a modkill of a town making a milo scenario. where you end up in some conundrum like a 3 town vs 1 mafia. where you sleep to
improve odds

I have no idea what eden is agreeing with about bozos statement

the fact is the game is now 9 v 3
and if maf kill successfully itll be 8 v 3

and if we miskill day 3 itll be 7 v 3
and if mafia kill that night itll be 6v 3

and then day 4 if we misskill itll be 5 v 3
and then if mafia kills that night itll be 4 v4

and day 5 would then be kilo

so whatever bozo is saying I think he means its still 2 miskills before
kilo which is true

if we hadnt found ghug we wouldve had 1 miskill before
kilo.

so I think thats what everyone is saying?
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#2518 Post by President Eden » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:15 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:03 am
President Eden wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:37 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:25 am





Why was an interesting D1 better than DKing your top scum read?
Those quotes are four hours apart, and in the interim TFB did a pretty good job digging into damo. I have a vague recollection that I posted before EOD about why I liked TFB's development on damo (though I think most of what he did to prompt that admittedly happened after I switched off).

I can't remember exactly who was my top scumread at the point you quoted, but it was a few hours before EOD, and I definitely remember thinking that all those players were at least reasonable shots at being mafia, so I wasn't overly worried about which one yet. Ironically I ended up (I now think incorrectly) on Bona, who was not in the list at all
I think TFB voting damo for the reasons he gave was questionable, and he had not posted too much about damo at the time you moved your vote.
Are you of the impression that ghug, damo, and TFB can all be mafia here? bc that would be a really pathetic d2 showing if true. really having trouble buying it

and if not, then frankly I'm pretty dead set that ghug and damo are mafia, so I'm not especially willing to revisit TFB at this time

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#2519 Post by brainbomb » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:15 am

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:14 am
I have no idea what bozo is talking about we would
not do a no kill. there is absolutely no reason to no kill unless there was a modkill of a town making a milo scenario. where you end up in some conundrum like a 3 town vs 1 mafia. where you sleep to
improve odds

I have no idea what eden is agreeing with about bozos statement

the fact is the game is now 9 v 3
and if maf kill successfully itll be 8 v 3

and if we miskill day 3 itll be 7 v 3
and if mafia kill that night itll be 6v 3

and then day 4 if we misskill itll be 5 v 3
and then if mafia kills that night itll be 4 v4

and day 5 would then be kilo

so whatever bozo is saying I think he means its still 2 miskills before
kilo which is true

if we hadnt found ghug we wouldve had 1 miskill before
kilo.

so I think thats what everyone is saying?
4 v 3
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#2520 Post by brainbomb » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:17 am

anyway if we keep killing mafia its not really a big deal. we just win instead.
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