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Finished: 03 PM Mon 24 Sep 12 UTC
Labor Day Lashing
1 day /phase
Pot: 252 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Laoban (1230 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1901: I'm not! Just busy with Labor Day stuff today. :)
04 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1901: YEAH.
04 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Austria has no supply centers that are not at risk!
04 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Do they ever? XD
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Russia would be in the same boat... if one could drive a boat north to Moscow.
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Once you're in Norway, that is...
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: ERm.. except for Warsaw
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: And everything but Sevastopol.. lol
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: England will lose Norway now because Germany failed to bounce Russia at Sweden. Germany is an unreliable ally.
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Do not trust.
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: I am not a fans of public forum but I have to respond. I have never promised Turkey to bounce Russia off Sweden. The fact that he does not get what he wants -- a Russian tartar steak for his lighteningly consumption -- has nothing to do with my ability to be an ally
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: The fact that I didn't get what I want is why I spoke up, it is true. However it is also true that Germany allowed Russia to get into a position to roll back England's gains.
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Germany says: "Have you ever wondered why England took Norway by a fleet not an army, in such case he can perfectly defend himself, but would make Russia very nervous? Well, lets say we both do not want to see you gaining too much too quickly."
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Is this the case?
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Maybe it is maybe it isn't. Either way, why would we discuss it in public?
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: To clarify, if you choose.
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: I read that as a "yes."
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: I am talking with both Russia and Germany. The content of that talking is, to put it politely, none of your business.
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Also, you have just proven to ALL of us that you can't be trusted. You posted a *private* correspondence in the global chat. Good luck making future alliances if that's how you reply.
05 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Dear Turkey. There is a specific type of games called "Public Press Only" if you want to do all discussion in public. Next time please choose the games you join more carefully.

This is the very first time I got a private message cut-and-pasted on the global press board. And that is not very nice.
06 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: It was an experimental tactic. Since it seems to be actually making people angry, I'll cut it out. 'Tis only a game.
07 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: Germany moves to strike Russia!
07 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: If Russia had built in Saint Petersburg and taken Norway as I suggested, Sweden would not be lost to him. Germany dances to Turkey's tune all along: smite Russia.
07 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: These developments are Excellent.
07 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: Thanks for Turkey's insightful and entertaining narration, which this game (in fact, any game) does not need.

Is this another experimental move to see whether public play-by-play narration would irritate people?
07 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: I was just appreciating your moves.
08 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: Ah! More excellent developments.
09 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: England: Beware of any German fleet built at Kiel. Your home centers are near to Germany, while your forces are engaged in France. Moreover your home centers are easy for Germany to get to.
09 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: Y'know, I have played this game before... Patronizing people is no way to make friends.
13 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: What will occur?
13 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: England suffers.
13 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: As Russia did before. Germany strikes. Austria, you're next. You missed a chance to strike first.
13 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: Germany is not a faithful ally.
13 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: Do not trust.
13 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: Austria, please do not say that I patronize. My dire warning to England was unheeded, yet correct. Cooperation with Germany only occurs as Germany requires it, in a way that puts you out of position. Contemplate Germany's three builds this turn, and their proximity!
13 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: Germany has no reason to strike me
13 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: You have SCs that Germany can take. That is a reason to strike you.
14 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: I can't believe England is going to resign after ignoring my warning about Germany, calling me patronizing, failing to take advantage of the opportunity I created for him in Russia, and losing three (3!) SCs to Germany in one year... does anyone want to fight Germany or shall we continue just giving him things?
14 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: I kind of want to give him you to shut you up if that counts
14 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: I'm getting that impression from everyone. My correct analyses, and truth to the point of exact quotes, are willfully ignored (to everyone's peril.) I still can't make sense of Austria telling me he'd support me into Warsaw to get into Germany, then, instead, helping Germany disband this unit *so that it appears on Austria's own border again.* Free payday for Germany (again)
18 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1906: Very well. England, Russia, exactly as I predicted, you were crushed at Germany's hand. "I told you so." Austria, I concede that you were right that Germany has no need to strike you, he'll actually get the solo without requiring your SC's.
20 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1907: Your merciless strikes. In another game I am pilloried as a liar. In this game I am pilloried for speaking the truth. You are about to kill the messenger. I guess "this is Sparta."
20 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1907: Nope. This is an old wargame, adopted for the XXI century about the I World War.
20 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1907: Dear Turkey, your fatal mistake is to play the role as a messenger when you should have been working on the diplomacy. Your analysis are all correct but serve no purpose on your diplomacy.

I have no complaints though. In fact, I suspect Austria and Italy would not have let me solo if you had not irritated everyone. Maybe to them, the prospect of surviving while seeing you dead is more attractive than forcing a draw that involves you
20 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1907: Vendetta. I can respect that. In fact, I make it a point to always support any Vendetta, even against myself. Constantinople supports Armenia to Ankara, and Ankara supports Bulgaria to Constantinople.
20 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1907: Granted, their vendetta is foolish and unjust, it's their own deaf ears they should be cursing, but in a battle of me against the world, I back the world. Constantinople supports Armenia to Ankara, and Ankara supports Bulgaria to Constantinople.
21 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: "~09:41 PM Spring, 1907: Quoting is never an advisable move. But I know I cannot stop you."
21 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: or so Germany says.
23 Sep 12 UTC Only the strong survive! I am not defeated, my fleet still floats.
23 Sep 12 UTC Obviously we can all see, what I suspected all along, Turkey is a pompous windbag with no skills. Thanks for all the speeches, Jackass.

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Germany
Laoban (1230 D)
Won. Bet: 35 D, won: 134 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
Austria
TheJon (0 D X)
Survived. Bet: 35 D, won: 67 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
Italy
Survived. Bet: 35 D, won: 52 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Turkey
tendmote (100 D (B))
Survived. Bet: 35 D, won: D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
England
Deia (196 D)
Defeated. Bet: 35 D
France
Defeated. Bet: 7 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 35 D
Civil Disorders
Eärendil (0 D X)France (Autumn, 1902) with 4 centres.
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