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Finished: 12 PM Sun 08 Apr 12 UTC
Flash of The Blade
2 days /phase
Pot: 146 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Stevelers (3084 D (G))
24 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Can everyone message Italy to try to get him to pause? Otherwise Germany's going to CD.
24 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm assuming that's his plan
24 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: It's the cowards way to win :)
24 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'll email the Mods if he doesn't pause today and try to get a force pause.
24 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: France, you could just say to him 'Pause or Naples gets it' :D
24 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Thanks Italy.
25 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I suppose it likely wouldn't have affected the game too much if he had been able to retreat to Silesia or Bohemia this turn, as he can simply move there this turn from Warsaw. That Warsaw unit likely would have been disbanded after this turn anyways, and he wouldn't have been able to retake Munich this turn.
25 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: If we all vote 'unpause' now, the game will restart as soon as he comes back and presses 'unpause'.
25 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Be sure to enter orders though ;)
28 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: alright - it's been 15 days since he asked for the pause, saying 10-12 days - how long do we give him before we go to the mods?
28 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: lol, nm - i'm an idiot - it's only been 8 days - I can't count :)
28 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm back! sorry sorry!
28 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Well, I can only get my orders in tonight, so...after that I'll likely be gone forever. I've lost interest in this site.
28 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: *sigh*; you should at least finish out this game, it's the decent thing to do
29 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I am really enjoying this game so far, too.. Everyone is very talkative, and reasonable, which isn't always guarantee, haha..
29 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Or....we call a draw?
29 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: This game has already been decided.. There is no set of possible moves that I can see which would keep me from a solo victory. St. Petersburg, Berlin, and Tunis can't be defended, and that's all I need for the win. Even if you had all decided on this turns' moves to stop me, which wouldn't have happened, it wouldn't be enough to keep me on my side of the stalemate line.

England has been one of my favorite adversaries in any game I've played so far. If there hadn't been a replacement Germany, a Germany more friendly toward me, it would have been England in my position now, I think. Keeping the Italian and Austrian in a permanent war, with a nearly perfect balance between the two of them, allowing neither one to gain the upper hand took some effort, too.. That balance was nearly thrown off by a new Turkish player, but with some hard press, he was able to change his mind. After all this, I intend to play on, and take the win with or without a Germany.

Really, out of the hundreds of games I've played on this site, this has been one of my favorites, and ending it in a non-stalemate draw would leave us all a little bitter, I think. In addition, I'd love to play with you all again, if you'd like, along with a dependable seventh player. I'm sure I won't fare too well in the next game though, as you all know my tricks! ;)
29 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: It has been a great game, but perhaps telling us where you're about to go wasn't the best idea.
I have to admit that I believed you when you said you'd let me draw, but I started to doubt it after you kept your fleet in the Ionian. I had just sent Austria a message asking for a re-alliance when you posted this.
There's no point in talking on private any more - it's easier to communicate on here, and France is the only enemy.
Italy and Austria - make it up with each other, then Italy should head west with it's fleets and Austria needs to head north. I'll help out with the Med battle but, if Germany leaves, I'm afraid you're on your own in the north, Austria, apart from perhaps one Italian army.
Italy - send Tyr to Pied, and support Vie-Tyr with Ven. There's no way you're going to be able to stop a Naples invasion now, so why bother? Get your fleets in Alb and Tri mobilized towards the Med - support Aeg-Ion with Alb and I'll be able to bring my fleets to help too.
Austria - start moving Sev, Rum and Ser north. This will require a lot of trust, but if you don't, France wins.
France - You've played a great game, but you're not going to solo that easily on my watch :D
29 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: The biggest threat to my solo was getting a forced draw because of a dropped out player. Turning everyone against me was probably the best way to avoid a draw, I think, so the risk was worth it. I certainly wouldn't have expected Italy to remain too friendly much longer anyways, and him getting into Piedmont a turn earlier than he would have won't make much of a difference.

In any case, good luck everyone!

To the German, how can you drop out now that this game is becoming so interesting??
29 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: France - I wouldn't have forced a draw - I would have switched sides so that Austria had a chance. Note that I never put up a draw vote.
But anyway, this should be very interesting. I hope Austria and Italy are reading this - if they attack each other this turn I'm going to be really annoyed.
29 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Hmm, that's true, there is less than 24 hours left in the turn, and Italy put orders in before this communication happened.. I'm probably hurting my chances a little more each time we give him a notification that there was a message in this game, haha..
30 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: ARRRRGGGGHHHHH ITALY!!!!!!!!
30 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: To be fair, those would have been his moves if all this hadn't have happened anyways. He wouldn't have turned on me until this year, so nothing really changed.
30 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: The point was that you gave us the opportunity to change it, so we could have taken advantage of it. It's not so much that nothing really changed, but more that something should have but didn't.
30 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I really don't see how you could keep me from Tunis if I had been dislodged from the Ionian this turn anyways.. If I am missing something, you'll have to let me know after the game is finished, as I've always found that tactics have been the weakest part of my game.
30 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: No doubt you would have retreated to Tunis, but if we were in the Ionian we could have driven you back - you don't have enough fleets in the Med to hold your SCs there. Who knows, we might have gotten to Iberia.
You probably would win in the north anyway, but it would delay the win by a while.
02 Apr 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Is this a PPSC game or a WTA?
02 Apr 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I believe that ppsc is the default, so it would say wta right beside where it says anonymous players if it were a wta game.
02 Apr 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Okay...
France, can I ask that as Austria and I are the only players who have remained true to the game, that we are allowed to take Italy and Germany's centers before you solo? I think that Italy and Germany shouldn't be refunded so many points for SCs if they've just wrecked our chances by CDing and such.
02 Apr 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Would be a nice gesture....
02 Apr 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I suggest that I get Ser, Gre, Nap and Rom and Austria gets Mos, War, Tri and Ven. France can have the rest and solo.
03 Apr 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: If Italy misses another turn, then I agree. If he has a reasonable excuse, he shouldn't be forced to give up centres. As it is, Warsaw and Moscow should be taken by Austria, while he forfeits one centre to Turkey.
03 Apr 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I would actually prefer not to take any centres from Austria - I will wait until I am allowed to attack Italy.
03 Apr 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Okay, Italy missed the phase. Can we take his centres?
03 Apr 12 UTC Spring, 1909: I only meant it as a way of splitting Warsaw and Moscow between the two of you, not as an attack of any sort. In any case, Italy missed his turn, so I won't do anything to stop you two from taking the rest of his centres.
03 Apr 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Does that mean you'll leave your solo until after we've wiped him out?
03 Apr 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Perhaps not completely wiped out, especially if he comes back, but yes, I'll give at least a couple years for you to do the best you can in taking his centres.

I'm hesitant about Rome and Naples though, and since we're fighting over just a few extra points in this low pot game, I might cut it short once his other 4 centres are taken. I'll give warning in advance though.
04 Apr 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Sorry guys outta the country for a bit. came up last minute... I appologize if I FSUed anything lol. sounds like i did. like woah... so much has happened!!! I need to analyse... doesnt france need 18 SCs to win though...
04 Apr 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Ah, yes, a lot has happened.. Turkey thinks that if you had read all this before the past turn, and dislodged me from the Ionian using your fleets, you could have stopped me from the win. I'm still skeptical, as I think I had it guaranteed, but that's what all the fuss is about.

Now though, surely the game is decided, and we were just going over how to distribute the remaining German and Italian centres to Turkey and Austria evenly, as we thought you had quit the game, or went missing, or whatever, so that they'd get a few more points in the end. Now that you're back though, I'm sure you've got different ideas, haha..
04 Apr 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Oh no, of course not! We're just going to stand aside and let you get your solo :D
05 Apr 12 UTC So what kind of support would you like to solo, France? How can I make your life easier? :)
05 Apr 12 UTC Oh Italy, you imbecile... We had a slight chance of stopping him...
05 Apr 12 UTC I can see that France will solo this turn, so I will do my closing speech now.

France - It's a shame I was a country far from you; it would have been very interesting to play properly against you. The way you had played Austria and Italy off against each other was masterful, and was really the reason I took over this Turkey; I know when Turkey has a good chance of recovery, and this looked like it.
It seemed like the game was decided before I arrived, though. France's performance in the West, combined with Italy's trust of him, meant that none could stop him. I talked to him about allying Italy against Austria because it would gain me a few more SCs and hopefully gain me a strong position in the Balkans - however, I ended up with just Bul - not the best gains ever made. France - you made several mistakes towards the end which could have robbed you of your solo.
First was telling us in advance what you were going to do. This gave me the chance to get a coalition against you, which might have succeeded, due to reason two;
Second, you had only one fleet in the south - all the rest were bogged down in the North, which meant you could only take one Italian SC max that turn. If Italy had responded the first time I asked him, he could have brought his Tyr army back to Pie, meaning that your flank would suddenly be exposed with little defense. Also, Germany had a stalemate line up in the north - all it needed was for Italy to support hold Munich. But again, Italy did not.
So, looking back - France, you played excellently, and were very convincing diplomatically, but you were over-confident towards the end which could have led to a loss of your solo if we had had a more competent Italy and a dedicated Germany.
Austria - You were a great ally, and I'm sorry I stabbed you the first time - you have been incredibly selfless and trusting towards the end in order to stop France, and that is what I look for in a Diplomacy player - someone who will trust people with all they have to further a greater purpose. I hope I play alongside you again - you are what many people would think of as the perfect ally.
Italy - There are many things I would like to say to you, but my sense of morality forbids me from doing so. You are one of the worst kinds of players in Diplomacy - ones who will do anything, break any alliance, for a quick SC gain. I have seen more players like you than I would like to mention, but one in particular stirs in my mind - in one of my world games I was Argentina and I had a great ally in Brazil. I conquered practically all of Antartica, and he started to move on North America. Suddenly, he stabbed me, taking my three home SCs, losing his only ally, and leaving himself in an incredibly vulnerable position to Ghana. Three years later, we were both completely eradicated.
You have deliberately ignored every message I have sent you about stopping France, you have taken advantage of Austria's trustworthiness, and you have doomed all of us (bar France) in this game. In the same way I would never play that Brazil in a game again, I will never play you, and I hope you understand why. Sometimes Diplomacy is about more than just gleefully stabbing and dooming others - it's about teamwork and trust, and until you realise that, you will never win a game against anyone who is in the slight amount experienced.
So, on the whole, good game. Austria, France - I hope I play you again sometime in the future - you've been great players.
06 Apr 12 UTC Italy; He's exaggerating, obviously, but there is some truth to what he says. We know you're new to this game, and you've mentioned to me that you're playing quite a few games all at once, so a little lenience would be commendable on our part.

Normally, when it comes to a game where a power is about to solo, all the other remaining players will try to force a draw, and it almost always works if they work together well enough. It wasn't possible in this game due to the German abandoning the game, but it's still almost necessary to try. Next time you're in this position, you've got to try to stop the frontrunner; no matter how convincing he is. ;)

Turkey; It wasn't possible to stop me in this game due to the NMR's of the German. I only made that move because I knew the German wasn't going to continue playing. If there were a German playing, I probably still would have won, it just would have taken a lot longer, and would have taken a bit more help from you and Italy in keeping the Austrian busy, which you were doing a fine job of.
06 Apr 12 UTC Sorry for saying that about you Italy - you probably were being manipulated by France the entire time, so it's not entirely your fault. I just hope you learn something from this.
06 Apr 12 UTC What I'm meaning to say is that I was very angry last night, and I overreacted. I apologize for this.
06 Apr 12 UTC LMAO!!! You guys are awesome! What a great game! And no worries turkey, it's not like I made those moves while thinking you and Austria would be pleased with them. It would be upsetting if you weren't upset. This whole match has been quite entertaining I must say. Thanks to all.
06 Apr 12 UTC oh, and yes, I learned lots!!! I'm like sponge, just soaking it all in!!!
06 Apr 12 UTC Excellent game, everyone. I hope we all run into eachother again!
06 Apr 12 UTC Ha, no wonder France won. Look at his points!

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France
Stevelers (3084 D (G))
Won. Bet: 15 D, won: 80 D
19 supply-centers, 13 units
Italy
MrWhiskers (112 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D, won: 27 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Austria
MaelwysII (695 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D, won: 23 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
Turkey
captainmeme (1589 D Mod)
Survived. Bet: 13 D, won: 18 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Germany
Resigned. Bet: 17 D
0 supply-centers, 3 units
England
Stearns (148 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Russia
woofers (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
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