Finished: 12 AM Wed 14 Dec 11 UTC
Private To Boldly Go Where No Game Has Gone Before...
1 days /phase
Pot: 315 D - Spring, 1911, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
30 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Crush Bajor and draw with the real powers and not the human lapdogs who are desperate since the vulcans turned against the federation and joined us in the dominion.
02 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Well, I must at the very least say that we're at least somewhat relieved here on Earth that our Vulcan friends have taken over the show...it would, surely, have been more courteous had they merely asked to head Starfleet rather than invade, but well...

But you seem to have done rather well for yourself, Ambassador...
02 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: By the way, Cardassia Prime:

THERE--ARE--FOUR--LIGHTS!

That is all. ;)
02 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Heh. I'm very pleased to see you all going after the damn Bajorans.
02 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Humanity, being generally illogical and prone to being consumed with envy, would have never allowed Vulcan to head Starfleet.
02 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: With the Vulcan's in charge of the Federation, the Dominion and the UFP are experiencing the first stretch of peace we've had in decades. And the Borg have been very reasonable of late. I guess the prospect of extermination has brought about a sense of reason for survival over conquest.
04 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: *sniff*

Well...maybe if you ASKED NICELY, Vulcan High Council...wait--

If you wanted to take over the Federation...why'd you do it by force? Now San Francisco and Starfleet Academy are all bombed to shit...sooooo, yeah.....why not just stage a coup, wouldn't that have been more logical, and--

ENSIGN, GET OFF THE COMM!

Oops, Captain Picard's finished his nap...Humanity OUT!

;)
04 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: The western portion of this great new empire is becoming much too logical for those of us in the east, I think it's about tie we split off and become Romulans again.
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: It's occurred to me that my exposure of Diplomat may have led to some subconscious metagaming from some players (not to accuse any of you of anything, I'm more inclined to believe that it's just hatred of the Bajorans). I just thought I'd bring it up so that you can all think about it and make sure that you're doing this for the right reasons.
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: Draugnar told me who he was before you and it had nothing to do with my decision to support you versus him. Fear not. You'll understand when the game is over.
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: But if you feel it has affected the game outcome, I am willing to draw.
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: It did indeed and I will be reporting you. I definitely think it did. And the fact you all know who I am and not anyone else. It ruined the game, A draw would be fair.
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: And I will be reporting Draugnar.
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Diplotool aka Dipshit aka D33 aka Diplomat33 got his feelings hurt and is going to report me! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: It has effected the game outcome. It has indeed. And it is metagaming. The honorable thing to do would, as germany says, draw.
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: Diplofuck - Your opinion on this matter doesn't affect my decision one bit... Actually, that's not completely true. Your attitude makes me want to eliminate you and not even consider drawing with you. But as that attitude was presented in game, it isn't metagaming and I can simply tell you to fuck off.

Now I wont draw for nothing if dipshit is in it.
10 Dec 11 UTC Spring, 1910: (abgemacht): Hello all,

I just wanted to drop in to say that if you're going to go out of your way to find out who a player is in an anon game, please don't complain when they find out who you are in the process.
11 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Did you actually think they mods would do something? Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: LOL.
11 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Pfft. Saying this out of character, but do you really think knowing who you were outside of game changed my decision to turn on you? It was that or be killed.
11 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: For me it was easier and quicker to kill Bajor than the Borg because of the position. I might have drawn at 4 but the attitude pissed me off. Now you know why chainsaw diplomacy only works when you have something your enemies want besides your SCs.
11 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Personally, I like to blame my losses on poor play or poor reading of others and not on thinking people have it out for me because of who I am. I certainly don't ever say "Must Slay X" whether I officially know who they are or not. Shit, I've even made alliances with Krellin (before he made a really sloppy stab and gave me the game).
11 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I have an alliance right now with Darwyn and he annoys most everyone. But the game is the game and whatever gets me ahead is what I do, from stabbing a friend who lives in town to joining the most delusive of forum posters. I only punish in game actions and even then there is a avoid reason beyond the punishment as is the case here. A three way draw is more points than a four way and Bajor is easier to kill. The mindfuck that is happening to Dipshit is just bonus fun.
11 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Most disgusting... phone autocorrected a typo incorrectly.
11 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I am thoroughly enjoying watching this, well done guys.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: OK, so now Austria *is* breaking the metagaming rules. HE refuses to put in a pause vote for me for the week, instead insisting I draw. That is a flagrant violation of the metagaming rules that say the pause function is not to be used as a negotiating tool.

Should I report him to the mods and have him banned?
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: No one else has voted pause. once they all do I will.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: That wasn't what you said in PM. You outright refused and violated the metagaming rules.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I doubt the mods are going to do anything. He metagamed, and they were fine with it, he continued to metagame and they continued to be fine with it, and then he multi'd, I doubt his refusing to pause is going to make them reconsider.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: The mods only havn't banned me because if they did I'd just make another account and they would have to hunt it down and do all that work. Far easier to let me live. Since I don't claim to be as good at coding or anything as them but I've got some tricks. And some money. They don't want to have to muddle about with fighting proxies. Especially the good quality paid ones.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I was just yanking his chain anyhow. I alrewady told abgemacht what I was doing just to fuck with Diplotool.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I wish he would punish you. That was metagaming and being an @$$, something you are good at.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: And he has been eliminated now, so once France and Turkey get on and place their build orders, then he will have the line through his name and we can draw.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Do you even know who I am? Feel free to tell everyone here if you think you do.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I'll know in 24 hours or so. And complain.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: You already did. Abgemacht and I have chatted about this game and he agrees I did nothing to warrant any punishment. I taught you a life lesson as well as a diplomacy lesson. Hopefully you'll take something away from it.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Yeah that you are a complete @$$ that likes to screw with peoples heads. I will avoid you when possible now.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Wait until you find out who I am...
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Oh, and this is Diplomacy. Screwing with people's heads is how you manipulate them into doing what you want. You were manipulated.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I love the dichotomy between "I'm untouchable but I think everyone else should be punished." Entitlement at its finest.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: We totally got off track from pretending to be characters. This would be fun to do again with other scenarios and none of the $h!t that screwed up this game.
12 Dec 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: That was only the end game. The rest of it was all in character.
12 Dec 11 UTC Alright, let's get our draw votes in and end this.
12 Dec 11 UTC I live forever in Albania!
12 Dec 11 UTC Someone move to Albania before the draw.
13 Dec 11 UTC Just end it...
13 Dec 11 UTC HAHA! you live in syria too italy. And russia in yorkshire. I was just trying to eek out some revenge from beyond the grave by making them go longer.
13 Dec 11 UTC Haha. Now we know who everyone is for sure. Interesting.
13 Dec 11 UTC Good game all. Thanks for making it enjoyable (until the end, that is)
13 Dec 11 UTC Blame Dr@$$nar for that.

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France
TBroadley (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 45 D, won: 105 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Germany
Draugnar (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 45 D, won: 105 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Turkey
Mafialligator (239 D)
Drawn. Bet: 45 D, won: 105 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
England
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
Defeated. Bet: 45 D
Italy
ghug (5046 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 45 D
Austria
Diplomat33 (243 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 45 D
Russia
SacredDigits (120 D)
Defeated. Bet: 45 D
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