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Finished: 10 AM Thu 24 Nov 11 UTC
When i stab you, everyone will hear you scream
1 day /phase
Pot: 322 D - Spring, 1914, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: @Turkey: you did not tap Mos ((
could you please order SEv>Mos and convoy to Sev?
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: @France: you will have at least 3 builds, are you up to go Nap>Tyrr to let me have Naples this turn to show that you are still on track with 3-way?
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: If Turkey don't show up I volunteer for a three way draw, in other case I want to help France get a win.
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: i am here
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Good, then you can go for Rumania, it's yours for sure.
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Russia, it is ok to try to create tension between me and Tur, BUT it is not ok to tell a plain lie: SEv, BLA, Bul =3, Ukr, Gal, SEr = 3. Rum is not for sure. and besides he does not need to stab.
06 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Turkey, how about you support Ukr>Mos and take Rum? let me know.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: France: what is you plan?
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: Grab English centers. Sorry at work, will talk more later
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: @Turkey: I wrote to you that Sev>Mos will not work, since Rus will cut support (exactly how he did), if you were to support me and take Rum, we each would have gained a center. There was a possibility France was becoming too strong, so I took couple of his centers: well: if he was not greedy, he could have supported hold Mun since I only went there with 2, not 3, but he went on England full speed and ignored (I'm sure on purpose) my message in regards to Naples, as he offered it for me himself...

Turkey: if you like, you can take Rum, but could you please not send second army to Bul, so that you don't pressure me too much? I will arrange the way we should take Mos in the fall.

England: France decided he wants Kiel more than keeping Mun, sorry. stay tuned, if he tries to attack me, he will pull back from your lands.

FRance: you ignored my message regarding giving me Naples, as you mentioned earlier (upon your advance on England), I took it myself. as for MUn: I knew you might try to take Kiel, so I made it simple for you either KIel or Mun. you have chosen Kiel. I told you before I don't want you to take Kiel prior for our discussion on when you give Naples. but you ignored me.

Russia: stay in touch )) I've heard it is cold out there now ) drink more Vodka ))
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: Can you not read Austria, I said I've been busy at work. I was stuck here several hours more than I was scheduled the last two days, and I had to sleep sometime. I would have had no problem with the Naples move if not coupled with the Munich move. I'll chat more after I actually head home and have a chance to shower and stuff
10 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1910: @Turkey: could you order Sev>Mos and I'm listening to your requests. If you like to get Rum this turn (or this year) I have no problem with it.
10 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1910: ok then sev>mos, and i will take rum
11 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: @Turkey: could you order Sev>Mos again?
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: sure
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Austria, I am still interested in peace with you, do you feel the same?
Turkey, note his response, if he continues to attack me a 3 way draw is not in his plans.
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: FRance: you have built aggressive fleet in Mar, occupied Ion sea which if you interested in 3-way should not be the case. Therefore my response is as follows: you move Tunis into Wes Med, Ion into Tunis and GOL back into Marseilles this move.
then I'm still ok with 3 way, no problem.
I will not move into Mar to let you occupy it.
Turkey, please note my reasonable suggestions for FRance and we will wait for his response and his moves.
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: In other words: neither of you two are interested in a three way draw, since you both set conditions for it.
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I will pull out of the Gulf Fleet back to Mar and Ionian to Tyrr. I would prefer Tunis stay in place to allow it to defend itself since Naples didn't do so well.
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: @FRance: sorry for my Mar move, I wrote to you and went to bed, meant to change orders in the morning based on your reply, but got busy. It did not give me any advantage, since it was pretty much clear you will move to Mar anyway, if anything it is bad for me that you can now build in Mar. I apologize for that.
It looks like Turkey decided to stab me. If he does, you will probably win as my priority will be to survive and make sure you, but not him gets all the benefit.
@Turkey: ou violated Aeg DMZ and moved to Bul: if you are interested in 3-way draw, please pull back. If England retreats to Sweden, Russia is pretty much done and we will finish 3-way soon. It does NOT matter now many centers you have - in a draw points are divided EQUALLY between all.
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: @Turkey: please build Fleet in ankara to show you are still interested in a 3-way. any other build will make it clear you want to stab me: yes, you will be able to take 2 centers probably, but why do that? we will fight each other and FRance will win. If let's say you care about points then if you have 9 centers when France 18-19 (win), it will be even worse then 3-way draw point-wise. Not to mention usually Normal players don't give wins away and prefer to draw other then allow solo. Let us know: if I understand correctly, France is very reasonable player, who will not oppose to 3-way, but of course will take a win if you stab me. I will make sure to disband in his favor and try to limit you the best I can, if you stab - it is all I will be able to do = defend from you. let us know (and show by fleet in ankara).
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: @austria, i had no idea if france was going to stick with the 3 way draw and so moved to aeg to combat a possible stab, now that he has retreated i will happily pull out and build in ankara.
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: ok, great. no problem.
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: France, my units are yours to command, I'm rooting for your win, or at least an attempt to win.
12 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Wait a minute, this game is PPSC, not WTA?
13 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: ok Turkey, hopefully England will retreat to Sweden and we will finish Russia off before he can help France to win.
@FRance: you are right, it is not WTA game, how does it change your intension? could you comment?
13 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: At this point it doesn't, I'm just used to playing WTA. That doesn't matter within the final goal if a three way draw though so we are good
13 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Turkey, there's a chance that France might go for the win after he gets all English centres. You can prepare for that and get some extra SC from Austria, that way you would finish second. Austria shouldn't mind, after all he's confident you'll split points three way.
14 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1911: @Turkey: thank you for your build. We take Mos 100% if I take it from WAr with your support: SEv S WAr>Mos and Ukr sup the same. could you support me in?
we can discuss with FRance how he likes to arrange centers. He built F Brest, not Mar, I think we should be ok for 3-way. If you help me in Mos, we can arrange you get Gre or Naples in the fall. Let me know. I will pull my fleet into Adr sea, you can take Ion sea in the spring. is this acceptable?
14 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1911: @Russia: I apologize for attacking you all game. You are doing an amazing job surviving under our press with no obvious allies. May be if England was moving more you could have coordinated with him.
14 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Thx Austria, I dont mind being on constant attack. What bothers me is the lack of dynamics, at least one real stab would be more than welcome...
14 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1911: @turkey, it is fine, i will move to ion and support you to mos
14 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1911: @France, I just wanted to write to myself too lol
14 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1911: :)
15 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1911: @Turkey: why you did not support WAr>Mos?
ohh, it is ok, could you please support this time: Livonia>Mos? not Ukraine>Mos, please.
15 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1911: sure
16 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: @austria can i take greece?
16 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: @TUrkey: you have 2 on it and if you STAB I will not be able to block you. Since you did not support the way we discussed in the spring and likely I will not be able to get Mos this turn, I would prefer not to disband at this point.
I'm ok with you taking it later in the game, but not this move.
16 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: @Turkey: I propose we finish 3-way peacefully.
16 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: sorry about that, my internet was spazing, i won,t take greece
19 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: @France: I appreciate you did not try to take Mun. I think we are almost done here. Even if Tur does not move I still plan to stick with 3way.
19 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: @Turkey: could you comment on the moves you plan?
19 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: No prob Austria, just don't be gettin any ideas about Kiel :-P
19 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: @austria, support holding everything, not much else i can do
21 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1913: @Fra/Tur: draw after builds?
22 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1913: sure
22 Nov 11 UTC GG, bye all
22 Nov 11 UTC Gentlemen, I voted "draw" hope you will do the same. Good game everyone!
22 Nov 11 UTC up to you now france
22 Nov 11 UTC gg guys, sorry again Russia I didn't give you a chance to get a survive out of this

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France
Dan-i-Am 88 (358 D)
Drawn. Bet: 42 D, won: 107 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
Austria
MaxVax (5610 D)
Drawn. Bet: 42 D, won: 107 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Turkey
deathbed (410 D)
Drawn. Bet: 42 D, won: 107 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
England
moesha (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 28 D
Italy
Remnet (143 D)
Defeated. Bet: 42 D
Germany
zarthrag (183 D)
Defeated. Bet: 42 D
Russia
Kompole (546 D)
Defeated. Bet: 42 D
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