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Finished: 02 PM Sat 03 Sep 11 UTC
Owl Sixty-One
22 hours /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1914, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by mcbigski (4208 D)
23 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1907: England, can you cut support from StP this turn and if I get Moscow I can support you into StP in the autumn?
23 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Turkey, who do you plan on allying with? Surely you realize if you team with them you can only get moscow, budapest and greece before you start running into your own team (russia and UK)
23 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1907: So then russia, you realize that with UK supporting turkey your pretty much dead in 2 seconds right? Work with me against turkey then, ill handle the north you handle turkey in the south?
24 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Ha! Germany, your the one who screwed Russia up. First of all, Russia made a mistake expanding into Austria. So in other words, if Turkey is going to work with Russia, he will have to take Warsaw to continue his expansion.
24 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1907: England, i believe you to be a compitent player, you surely realize that this whole diplomatic game thus far has been complete shit. What everyones offereing each other has been bullshit so far. If russia does end up teaming with you guys you know its beyond stupid on his part. And France should see teh writing on the wall that late game England+turkey being alive= everyone else dead.
24 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Russia, look bro he just said hes giving turkey your only last natrual CD, if you agree to this you can't build any where, and your existance in the game will just be to surive with 3 units. I mean come on!!!! hahahaha
24 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Russia, I believe you should just accept your current conditions and try aiming for a draw.
24 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1907: Germany aren't already out of options without me? Haha..
26 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Hey you guys do realize that turkey is about to get a very easy solo correct?
26 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: It's only a matter of time until I next put in a set of orders during a scotch fueled haze though.
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Italy, you have to change your stance against France. Germany is a failed country and supporting him any longer won't help. Support us (me and France) against Turkey.
Also Germany, your always welcome to work with us again. Since France has the same goals as me this would mean 8 (France and me) vs 4 (Italy) vs 8 (Germany) vs 14 (Russia and Turkey).
Germany if you move your troops in Helio to Denmark, and Denmark to Baltic Sea, I will ally with you again. Also if you let me have Norway, then that will let me have access against Turkey. Literally this game is more like 8 (france and me) vs 8 (Germany) vs 18 (Turkey).
Lets ally Germany. Although your past stab was futile, it is still forgivable. Also Italy, your cooperation would be welcome.
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: I agree, that we need to ally against Russia and turkey, my only problem is, you have 4 fleets atm... and the only person they can be used against is me :/
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: just for the record, im not really pro-turkish...and i dont know how england is supposed to be able to fight turkey
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: The way you advanced is pretty much 100% pro turkey... look at your troop placement and movement, if you weren't pro ally turkey you shouldn't have invaced Italy or germany and attempted to get back your nature centers to be able to build. Your attack on me only helped turkey.
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: And yes england i do agree we need to work together, that said it was a dual stab last time :p we both did the same thing same turn :p
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: England, I thought you, Russia, and I were allying against Germany.
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Yea, but progress on my side has been sluggish Turkey. It's not benefiting me. This is not a matter of sides for me, but a matter of self-interest. Germany, you do realize that I had 2 armies before you stabbed me, right? I agree that it was a dual stab, but I think we both should know why we stabbed each other. It was due to the impending conflict we would have, based on how our troops were positioned against each other. But now our troops don't implicate any meaning of conflicts. Therefore we can work together again. Also I need these fleets to convoy my ground troops to Scandinavia. Germany, you haven't really answered on whether you want to ally or not.
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: You're going to make more progress against Germany with me and Russia hammering his other side than you will trying to break through Moscow. Plus, you last time you guys allied you ended up chattering endlessly about what went wrong. Join us on the dark side and skip all that drama!
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Yes i will ally with you, we both k now how a Turkey with 9 centers go at this point in time. He gets an easy solo win if we dont work together. I have made orders to combat russia and turkey. Hopefully we can get ITaly on teh same page as well.
27 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Alright then. I hope you will disband Norway and Finland sometime now or move them into Central Europe where they should belong. I'll also expect your fleet to move to Baltic Sea, following to Denmark. My troops will hold. Germany, I hope we can be honest allies. Also I want to ask that you stop your advance against France. Give up your position of power over Europe, because there is already Turkey who is aiming for that spot.
28 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: What is your plan UK? moving foward how do you plan on advancing?
28 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Wow. No one wants to be allies with Turkey? I thought the consensus was that I was clueless, not a threat, and presumably easy to stab. Frankly Germany is in at least as good a position as me. He's going to take back Munich and be ahead of me in builds. And probably go and stab England again. I was looking for a three way alliance w either England or Germany and any one other.
28 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany is in a better position? You have 6 centers uncontested, not even in range of anyones troops. You have easy acess to expand thru Russia then ont italy and me. I on the other hand, have such terrible position it isn't even funny, and UK knows that, im in no position to attempt at a solo win and need to work wtih UK to stop you from making a solo run.
28 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany, I'll move into Norway from Barents Sea. I won't support in my troops. So I'm expecting you to move voluntarily out of Norway. In order to advance I'm going to need ground troops in St. Petersburg, so with that build in Norway, I'm planning to build an army to convoy there.

Also, Germany, if you don't plan on working with France, then your going to have to let me have Brest. 1 path of expansion for me won't be enough. It would deem hopeless for me. I also would ask for support into lands like Spain and Portugal. It's normal in a German-Anglo alliance for England to move around Germany, while Germany goes widely south.
28 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: I would like to see north sea move into English channel, can that be arragned?
28 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: you do realize that giving you norway will result in me losing a build correct? Seeing as france will take back brest.
28 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Yes, I do. You just need to disband the unit that once occupied the lands that you would give me.
29 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Italy, keep working on France. I'm looking for an allying to split with, and England and Russia have abadoned me. Shall we work together towards that goal?
29 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany, another futile attack. I can't stop sighing at the poor decisions you make. I wouldn't even consider your attempt a stab. Might as well hand this game over to Turkey. Clearly, Germany, you are an imbecile.
29 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Russia, and italy if us 3 team up its pretty much GG, i can do some work on England, and help italy out against france, and russia i can also support you against turkey, considering turkey has 3 navies that he can only use against italy really i dont think an italy turkey alliance would work on this point.
29 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Ha.. like that'll work. Good job Germany. Thank you again, for saving the world.
30 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Alright, Turkey: Head back into the Eastern Med and we might be able to work together. I'm going to defensively put myself back into the Ionian, but I'm not picking a fight with you.

Germany: Paris and Brest are yours if we can keep Burgundy and Gascony are DMZ.

I haven't decided who I want to work with yet, but I'm not going to make an aggressive move on anyone right now (except France, sorry, but you started it). We'll see how this next turn goes before I commit one way or the other.
30 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Italy, you have the Ionian.
30 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Sounds good to me Italy, i will work for getting bur DMZed asap
31 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1909: You guys even thinking of the end results?
31 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1909: um wtf... why didn't my orders send?
31 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1909: Italy, I find your lack of faith disturbing!
01 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: Turkey, I also find your move to Albania instead of back east disturbing. I'd be willing to overlook it if you don't build any more fleets.
03 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Italy, if we're going to win this together, how about some help into Trieste?
03 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Turkey what is your end game? Are me you and italy doing a 3 way draw? or are you trying to just 2 way with italy?
04 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Germany, you are an idiot.
04 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I'm looking for a two way with Italy, but a three way might be quicker.
04 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: 3 way can be finished in a year or two, hardest part will be my fleets getting into england. That said once i do that it will be much harder for you and italy to do a 2 way draw.
04 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: You've got it, Turkey.
12 Aug 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Can we get this game moving again France and England?
17 Aug 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Can we get an unpause here?
29 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1913: Everyone remember when Russia and England agreed I was incompetent?
01 Sep 11 UTC Spring, 1914: Italy, do you get the impression that Germany is just dragging this out so I get bored and just end the game before you finish cleaning him up?
02 Sep 11 UTC May I survive, Turkey?
02 Sep 11 UTC I never called you incompetent. Indeed, I would go so far as to call you competent.

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Turkey
mcbigski (4208 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 51 D
18 supply-centers, 15 units
Germany
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
7 supply-centers, 6 units
France
queviltai (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Italy
hankinse (381 D)
Resigned. Bet: 10 D
8 supply-centers, 9 units
England
Furball (237 D)
Resigned. Bet: 10 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Austria
ranelen (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
jpgredsox (104 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
hankinse (381 D)Italy (Autumn, 1914) with 8 centres.
Furball (237 D)England (Spring, 1911) with 3 centres.
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