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Finished: 09 PM Thu 14 Jul 11 UTC
Mediterranean Medislaytion
1 day /phase
Pot: 63 D - Autumn, 6, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by krellin (80 D X)
01 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1: What the hell did I just do with Syrian Sea.
01 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 2: Not much....
03 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 2: Wow Rome sure is excelling pretty fast.
03 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 2: No I'm not. Carthage just crumbled exceptionally fast. It's not my fault.
03 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 2: Haha usually Egypt is the first to go, but this time I didn't team up with Carthage.
03 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 2: Well, this is all purely accidental. I not really quite sure what happened and I think it would be best if you just disregarded anything you think you see.
03 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 2: Guys, i have something that just came out of nowhere, and i have to go out of town, and i will probably CD and be destroyed. if however, you would be willling to pause the game until July 9th, I'd be eternally thankful
03 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 2: Pause.
03 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 2: pause
04 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 3: Pause? :D
04 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 3: How ironic that even Egypt didn't even vote to pause yet.
04 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 3: Well Carthage is definitely being unfair. Pause!
06 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 3: It seems I accidentally joined a game where you were all waiting for a 5th player to return. I apologize...I did not realize it was paused. So we can do one of two things. A) Unpause and allow two turns to go by and I'll time out or resign if you will OR B) Unpause and play.

I'll let you all decide...let me know.
06 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 3: UNPAUSE AND PLAY. As stated, Egypt didn't vote for a pause and missed a turn when everyone else paused? Bah...play it out.
06 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 3: OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY, Mr. Sassy.
06 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 3: Sassy? Uh....perhaps you need a dictionary. first of all, Persia, YOU are the one that pointed out Egypt's irony, and then bitched about Carthage taking advantage of the situation. Now we have xsomebody willing to play, I suggest he play it out so we CAN PLAY...and you call me sassy? Errr...Are you some sort of moron?
07 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 3: LOL Calm down big boiii... I wasn't bitching about anything. I wanted Egypt to have a fair place in this game. Plus, he was my only ally.
In addition, I didn't even see your message about unpausing until I realized that a new Egypt had joined us.

The fine line between us is that I don't use caps, which highlights an imperative tone.

But I don't want to start up an argument so what I said above was a joke.
07 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 4: I find the frequent comments by people about the specific use of CAPS to be hillarious. I frequently use selective caps for emphasis, knowing that it will get under people's skin. It really is a stupid and lame thing for people to get up tight about.

As far as "it was a joke"....yeah. My follow-up comment was a joke. I don't REALLY think you are a moron...
07 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 4: I THINK YOU'RE A MORON.
07 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 4: jk.
07 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 4: Excellent use of caps. Well done!
07 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 4: Please take Numidia quickly. This game is not really fun.
08 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 4: Sorry Carth. Better strategy next time! (Not to insult, but it is not a game of luck, hence I did not wish you better luck...)
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: Hi everyone, I will need a pause, if that's okay, before Sunday afternoon. I will be leaving for a week. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. I hope you will understand.
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: this should be over by then, the way rome is going
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: Any other feedback from Rome and Egypt?
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: Okay, Rome, great sportsmanship (sarcasm)
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: Excuse? WTF is your problem? It is not Sunday, therefore I do not need to put in my Pause yet. That being said, find a sitter for your account, then we won't have this issue. But I can assure you that your sarcasm does NOT incline me to do you any favors. (NOT being sarcastic at all...)
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: I might also point out that NOBODY else has issued their pause, so fuck off.
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: Carthage and Greece are both dead, so I don't really need their input...
As for Egypt, I was gonna get onto him at the same time as you but I guess I forgot.

Egypt? Pause time?

I feel more comfortable pausing games at least a day before my departure because I have had multiple games in which I waited until the last second and no one listened and I got eliminated...
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: Carthage and Greece are NOT dead so you still need their input for a pause. You do know how this works, right? And if we pause, like most other games, it'll probably never get Unpaused because then Greece won't have to take a loss. So...I recommend finding a sitter.
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: They're going to be dead by the time I leave. So once they're eliminated, all I need is a pause from you two.
10 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: Uhhhh....you wanted a pause TODAY....before they wee gone. And...I'm sorry, but can you see into the future? If so, you should be winning this game???? I'm not sure how you can decree that by tomorrow Greece will be out of the game. They ARE in Chersonesus...duhhh....And it seems as if you aren't going to be able to take Chersonesus in the spring....hint hint...

So you assessment of the board is wrong.

You need to find yourself a sitter, because you are not going to get a Pause...sorry.
10 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: aight then ill just let you win this game.
10 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: you can probably take Chersonesus and Sinope and Byzantium... and maybe cirta.
10 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 4: Don't cry about it Persia. First of all, you were COMPLETELY wrong about thinking that Greece would be dead before you needed your Pause. So....you know....admit that you were wrong, first of all.

Second, after you were informed that you were wrong, it was suggested that you find yourself a sitter....because, frankly, I'm sick of stupid asshole joining games that they can't finish. I'm pretty sure this week-ling vacation didn't just spring up suddenly yesterday.....so I have little to no fucking sympathy for your situation. But...beyond that...dude, unless you are going camping on the top of a fucking mountain, then you WILL have access to the internet. I traveled across the US and submitted my turns every night from the lobby PC wherever we stayed.

IN short...I don't give a fuck about your situation, and I won't put my game on hold because you are a douche bad and joined a game that you knew you could not finish. Fuck that.
10 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 5: Yo, what happened here? Everyone needs to relax and cool off. I've just hit pause and Carthage is out.

There is no need for this...it is JUST a game. Granted, everyone, including myself, can get pretty annoyed or upset with other players and their style of play. However, the reason we all play online and not in person is because life gets in the way and the site allows us to react to life and things that pop up that are out of our control. Which include everything from dinner to vacation or work/school. I paused a game once cause a guy's wife was having a baby!

Anyway, my point is, relax, a pause is not the end of the world and I have no doubt Persia and Greece will be honorable and unpause upon Persia's return just as I intend to. Ironically, in this game of warfare...I think it's peace we need in the Global Chat.
10 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 5: My general experience is people don't unpause. I had a 1-2 day pause turn into a month long pause because the losers wouldn't unpause. I won't pause, and I'm not required to. You are right...it is just a game...one that I would like to finish, so Egypt can either just take the loss, or he can find a sitter. Sorry if you don't like that.
10 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 5: Persia*
10 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 5: I'm Egypt.
10 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 5: Persia. Sorry.
12 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 5: GameMaster: nwh1763 was banned: multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
13 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 6: Persia/Rome: Were either of you the one who was multi-gaming as Greece? Or was he found out in another game and he happens to be in ours?
13 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 6: Egypt? Were you the one butt-fucking the bum in the alley behind my house? Or are you just a fucking dumbass?
13 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 6: Maybe you are too stupid to comprehend this, but *perhaps* he was multi-gaming in ANOTHER game, you blithering idiot. But, if you have a concern: First, show me WHERE your concern is, and Second, report me, you fucking moron. But...CLEARLY....the Mods have ALREADY BANNED THE MULTI.

I'm sorry you are a poor sport and hate to lose....but...YOU LOSE, ASSHOLE!
13 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 6: Wow. Where did that come from? You are really an angry bloke aren't you? I mean, I was surprised by your behavior towards Persia which was unwarranted...but my question required a simple yes/no.

If you'll look back at my question (which was not solely directed at you), I asked if either of you were the 'other' multi-gamer. I ask this from personal experience...I have a friend who was caught multi-gaming in a game we happen to both be in. He fessed up and we all agreed to cancel the game if I recall. So I asked wondering if this was a repeat of that event. You'll notice that Persia and Greece both disappeared at the same time...so I was wondering.

Look, I get that wins are harder and harder to come by these days, what with more and more players choosing to draw games over playing them out. I do not seek to deprive you. Also, remember that I was a newcomer to this game...it was paused until I joined...so if anything you should be thanking for the very fact that you have the opportunity to win at all. You could still be paused right now and Persia's problem would have been solved. But this is ridiculous. I meant nothing by the question, which by the way was followed by a second question which plainly acknowledged that it could have been what you said: "but *perhaps* he was multi-gaming in ANOTHER game".
13 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 6: So let's refresh... I have....
1) Not insulted you
2) Not asked for a Pause or Draw or Cancel
3) Not accused you or anyone in this game of cheating or anything else for that matter.

You have...
1) Treated Persia with the utmost disrespect
2) Falsely accused of me of trying to throw the game/deny you a win
3) Called me the following names:
-the one butt-fucking the bum in the alley behind my house
-a fucking dumbass
-too stupid to comprehend
-blithering idiot
-fucking moron
-a poor sport
-ASSHOLE!

Terrible logic, no manners, anger management issues and a desire to ruin the game for others. You win.
13 Jul 11 UTC dumbass - you suggested one of us was the multi-. You did therefore make and accusation and insult me. Fuck you. I don't stand for insults.

As for winning, I didn't need your statement to tell me I win. I win because I outplayed my opponents.
13 Jul 11 UTC If I had accused you, it wouldn't have been a question. Did you take grammar lessons? And if I was accusing you, I wouldn't have followed it up with another QUESTION, which was...did it occur in another game and one of the accounts happened to be in ours.

Ready...here's the grammar lesson. A question mark is put at the end of a sentence when the sentence is not declarative....in other words, I didn't know the answer, hence I asked.

If I had thought it was you, aka "made an accusation" then there would have been a period afterwards. It would have been declarative and thereby accusatory.

Had I wanted to insult you, I would have resulted to cursing and other foul language which you have resulted because you are incapable of making coherent, calm, rational arguments. You also seem to be paranoid since you think everyone is out to deny you a chance to play and a chance to win.

I think my favorite part of your last comment was "I don't stand for insults." No you don't, but you hurl them out like a mad man. Pathetic.

Oh, and just to annoy you, you never outplayed me. I joined late and two players left. So if anything this win is hollow and does not reflect my playing style or my ability to conduct diplomacy, which by the way, requires a cool head and manners. Now, if you'll kindly win already, so I can go back to my other games with more pleasant people. Thanks.
13 Jul 11 UTC Not reading your diatribe, because I don't care what you have to say. Next time you are losing, take it like a man and don't try to blame others as being multis because your strategy was bad. I know you joined the game late...and you did so thinking you had a chance to do well. You didn't, because your strategy and diplomacy failed. You lose. Take it like a man.

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Rome
krellin (80 D X)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 38 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
Egypt
Drenai Druss (1135 D)
Survived. Bet: 13 D, won: 26 D
12 supply-centers, 10 units
Persia
Resigned. Bet: 10 D
4 supply-centers, 7 units
Carthage
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Greece
nwh1763 (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
bill777 (100 D)Egypt (Autumn, 3) with 7 centres.
ABIGFATLOSER (0 D X)Persia (Autumn, 5) with 7 centres.
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