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Finished: 03 PM Mon 19 Sep 11 UTC
Private TGM Champions Trophy 2011 G2
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1913, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
30 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1906: =)

no problem.
06 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1906: I'm back...thanks everyone.
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: wtf.
Is that the 4th turn that france missed or didn't do anything.
Champions Game my arse.
Let's all cancel, restart and get a real player in as sub.
15 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: can I ask for a pause? just till tuesday morning?
16 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: yes...in that case, I'd prefer a pause before the end of the phase. I don't plan on entering orders.
16 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Still... cancel would be more appropriate...
What a bad showcase game.
16 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: I set my alarm for this...and it has been disappointing.
16 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sorry - been at a work conference and only just picked this up. Paused just in time.
23 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: so everyone - we ready to unpause?
26 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Hello everyone. can we go ahead and unpause this game?
26 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sorry guys, was at a wedding over the weekend. I've unpaused, but I'm afraid I'm going to need to pause again this Friday evening over the weekend as I'm going into hospital for a minor shoulder op and won't be out until Sunday evening/Monday morning.
26 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: we can just wait till monday if you like. maybe if everyone except you unpauses, then you can unpause when you get back.
27 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: If its okay with everyone, I'll just wait to unpause then...
29 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: monday morning works well for me as well.
01 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: England/Germany can we get this game going please?
02 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: guys, this is getting ridiculous. I am going to go to a mod soon to unpause. we have been paused for a month now.
04 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: England!!! please unpause!!!
06 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Guys, really sorry, my surgery was a bit more complicated than usual, and my partner had a minor car crash (she's ok, but quite shaken up), so diplomacy wasn't really on my mind. I will talk to all the players first thing in the morning, and then unpause in about 10 hours time. Once again, I'm sorry but real life got in the way somewhat. I'll be able to continue and devote the time required to the game from now on.
17 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: Russia, it was a pleasure playing with you. That 2 month pause really hurt both of us and destroyed the dynamics of this game for us both
17 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thanks, good luck to the remaining powers, looks like you'll need it.
18 Aug 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: I will have limited access over the weekend (basically only from my phone), could I ask for a pause starting friday?
I will unpause Sunday evening/monday morning.
23 Aug 11 UTC Spring, 1910: England, Italy... unpause?
26 Aug 11 UTC Spring, 1910: ENGLAND, ITALY !!!
26 Aug 11 UTC Spring, 1910: at least let us know when you can unpause. This is starting to get ridiculous.
26 Aug 11 UTC Spring, 1910: Hey guys. I'm ready. But ill wait till after the weekend
31 Aug 11 UTC Spring, 1910: which weekend are you referring to?
31 Aug 11 UTC Spring, 1910: i meant labor day weekend
01 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Guys - I really can't continue this game. after I put in these orders I'm going to go ahead and CD and you guys can do whatever you want...

I think its ridiculous that you all wont vote for the draw. but whatever enjoy your few extra points
01 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: hmmm...maybe you haven't seen the title of the game. This isn't about points. It never was. Do what you will...but I don't see CD'ing as being very respectable among respected players who have gotten this far.
01 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: yes, don't do this. You are a better player than that.
02 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Guys you are all full of shit.

this game will not end in a solo. you guys are going for a 3 way draw instead of a 4 way draw, so if I CD or not its irrelevant. I have more important shit to do with my time than to keep entering orders for my last game on the site just so I get eliminated. I'll save you all the trouble.

and the ONLY fucking reason this game changed is because we had a 2 month freaking pause that was supposed to be only one week. remember that crap? this game has been a complete joke since that unpause... so go fucking enjoy it.

bye
02 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: agree with the 3 way asessment.
still, I thought you were a better sportsman than to just CD.
This does not befit you. Even if you are leaving, I would prefer to remeber you as a quality player and not as an ass.

At least from my perspective nothing changed over the 2 months pause. I was fighting you before and after :)
This game rather was a joke before because of all the NMR's that happened. Not so much since those stopped.
13 Sep 11 UTC Spring, 1912: Guys - you all proved you can eliminate the 4th player. the game is over, and no one is going to solo right? the trophy wont go to any of you...

so is the extra GR points THAT valuable that all 3 of you think I should be eliminated? will you not vote for the draw now that you've proved your point?
13 Sep 11 UTC Spring, 1912: yes, the trophy will go to one of E or G.
15 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: GG all.

well played Turkey for surviving to the end.

England - amazing job. I have no clue how you managed to turn Germany away from you- but whatever you did - that was the most amazing turn around ever. I cant say I agree with your decision to go with him instead of me as the ally, but such is dip-life.

see you all around when I come back to webdip at some point in the future
15 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: See you at tempest!
15 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Hmmm and all this time I thought your abrasive tone meant u were ivo =P I guess not hahaha
15 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Cmon guys - last chance at some mercy for an old friend? Ill take the zero center draw =)
16 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: oh, I see.... you thought I was Ivo and that's why you broke our alliance!
Now it makes sense :)
16 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Lol. No I never trusted u to have an alliance, specially. After u built that 3rd fleet. Later on I thought u were ivo. Near the end =0
16 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: ... you should trust more :) ... at least me. well, next time.
3rd fleet while one is in Bla is perfectly fine.

anyways, look at your skype account please and answer :)
16 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Thanks for the game chaps. No harm in revealing my London roots - I guess most people would have guessed by now anyway.

I have to say that's possibly the most intensive press game I've played. I've still no idea how I turned Germany round on France, but thanks to Germany, whoever you are, for listening to sense and for keeping that element of trust going when we both were tempted to stab.

Italy, well, you very nearly had me turning the tables on Germany but I thought in the end, better the devil you know...!

A three way draw is fine for me given the awful starting position I found myself in, but any attempt to win by one of me, Turkey or Germany now would lead to a stalemate anyway.

EOG statement on the forum anyone?
16 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: naw... I'm hoping to be long gone... so that's it for me. curtains for a few months at the very least ;)

I think England the biggest thing that affected the game was that first LONG pause where you even admitted you changed your mind right before the unpause. I got so many schitzephernic messages from Germany even one saying he was going to give me the solo.

my mistake was pausing with an hour left instead of waiting for us to do our thing THEN pausing. things would have been very different.

anyways. nice playing with you all ;0
16 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: haha...no one knows who I am? :) I think I have Italy and England pegged, but I am unsure about Turkey.

I'll admit that this game was very difficult for me after 1905 when I attempted to stab England. After that, as Italy mentioned, I became very schizophrenic. The pauses were definitely a factor in this game. I'm going to write an EOG and identify what I thought was THE turning point in the game that resulted in this outcome.

Anyway, good game everyone!
16 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Germany.... are you Ivo?
16 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: no
17 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Well I know who Germany and Italy are
17 Sep 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Oops strike that. I know who Turkey and Italy are
17 Sep 11 UTC draw?
18 Sep 11 UTC Good game all. quite a few surprises in these revelations. that's why I love anon so much.

This was my last game on the site for a while I think. hopefully whenever I end up coming back, I'll see you guys around and we can play again. take care all.

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Turkey
TheWizard (5364 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Germany
Darwyn (1601 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
England
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
France
Laoban (1230 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Italy
Babak (26982 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
Crazyter (1335 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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