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Finished: 07 AM Thu 14 Jul 11 UTC
Private Winter 2011: Premier League - Game 3
1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1919, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
08 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Uh oh
10 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: would appreciate a pause guys for the ftf weekend in boston. thanks
10 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Oh, yes, please!
13 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1911: darn... now that I've met you, I want abgemacht to stay in here and can't stab Babak anymore :( and everything was lined up so perfectly for my second solo here.

oh well, let's just draw?
14 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1911: lol! somehow after this weekend I'm MORE willing to stab you =P hehehe

but yes, I agree... lets draw =P what do you think Mall? you ready to draw this game?
14 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Can we all vote to unpause so we can move this along?
14 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Sorry... that was totally my bad. I hadn't realized I was still in "pause" mode. =)
15 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Oh, this is some bad news bears right here.
16 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: wow Wiz. I am guessing you want mal to solo. wow indeed.
16 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: Why doesn't anyone ever want a certain Warder to solo????? Why, why, why???

=)
16 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: Can I ask for a pause again this weekend... I will be going to the Boston Massacre on friday... sorry, guys.
16 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: Damn, wish I could join you!
21 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: is Mall on vacation? he has not been around for 3 days
22 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: Oops, didn't notice that I was the problem. Sorry folks.
22 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: Thanks for the game, everyone.
24 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Good game Malleus,

I'll disband a fleet and let you solo.

Grats.
24 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Thank you Wizard for handing the solo to Mal.

I'm fine with him taking the solo, so I'll retreat from Moscow.

Wizard, it was YOUR choice to try to get LG a second life in this game instead of finishing it up.
24 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Well. thanks to Wizards message to me. I've changed my mind.

I am voting for the draw. if theWizard is so hell bent on keeping his freaking junior partner from games one and two in this game, he can hold the line and I can hold my line and we have a forced 4 way draw.

if Wizard wants to be an a$$ and disband his fleet to give a solo to Malleus, his league-long partner from last season, then good for him, we'll have 3 solos in this pathetic excuse for a diplomacy tournament and we can all leave with an even more bitter taste in our mouths.


Wizard, completely up to you what you want to do. I will hold the line against France in the north. your puppet LG can stay in the draw, and you get to decide if France solos or if he does not.

this has been the most pathetic set of games I've ever played on this site or anywhere else. Truly - I am ashamed to have been a part in them. including my undeserved solo in game 2.
25 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: I still find that a very self serving statement as you and I have duscussed in our messages in game two.
25 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: You are far more guilty of what you pretend to publicly deride. It's the hypocrisy that I find most amusing. Moreso even than the presumptuosness. However, it has proven effective in getting your desired results;)
25 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Well, I won't deny that I've fallen to the dark side. But when u face team play, you accept offers u normally would not. All I can say LG is that your choices in game one, whatever its logic, absolutely fucked up this league and forever tarnished its results.

You don't have to accept that, the moves and the results speak for themselves.
25 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Of course I will not accept a transference of responsibility for a person's choice. No one forced another's hand. No one engaged in team play - that is still the most rificulous notion and one which I welcome anyone to evaluate.

I never realized that one person out of 7 could weirld such power.

The reality is that you allowed a result that you did not like to taint the way you approached every subsequent game. You created any type of team play because of that. You created a self-fulfilling prophesy. I take no responsibility fir that.
25 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1912: Stupid phone is causing some misspelling there.
28 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1914: Mal - its over. we have a final defensive line. do you agree that we have a stalemate?
30 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1914: Mal - will you vote for the draw or should we try to get a mod in here?
30 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1914: I will be happy to adjudicate : )

The proper person to contact would be Alderian, the TD.
30 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1914: I've yet to exhaust all my diplomatic options.
03 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1915: malleus - you can play this out all you want, but this game is a draw.

all you are doing is waiting for someone to NMR :)

I know you still have a 1% chance of us fucking up our orders, and if I were in your shoes, I'd do the same and try try try.... but just so you do know, WE know how to get to 100% stalemate irrelevant of what orders you enter. so just FYI, this game is over.
05 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1916: What is wrong with you people?
05 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1916: It's like you're playing musical chairs in Austria.
05 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1916: Yea... and Austria wasn't even invited to play:)
06 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1916: you guys have no clue of the intensity in the balkans.

its over now... italy got the upper hand and we're done.
06 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1916: Mal. 7 support orders. this game is stalemated.

Sev sup Mos
Ukr sup War
Gal sup War
Vie sup Boh
Ven sup Pie
Tus sup TyS
Ion sup Tun

agreed? done?
07 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1917: No, I don't agree. I've told Italy that I will draw if he asks me too, but until then, I will keep on.

I'm out of town this weekend, so I'll need a pause from Friday night to Sunday night.
07 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1917: this is ridiculous. you have a completely stalemated line and now you want a pause? thats just silly.

Wizard. could you please say your opinion here. he says as long as you say you want a draw, he'll vote for it. i'm gussing he thinks you're such a liar that he does not believe your vote =P
08 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1917: ME lying to ANYONE? I would never! How do you dare suggest that.

Now I'm offended.
08 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1917: There you go.
No draw.
No statement = no lying
08 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1917: bah... none of you here at this time of night?
fine... *re-draw*
08 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1917: or.... I might just try to mute you both for a day, lol!
08 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1917: ...better stop drinking.
08 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1917: he's the one who accused you of lying.

by saying your draw vote did not count as actually wanting a draw ;)
08 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1917: Babak, I know you're as annoyed by me about not getting a straight answer from Italy, but just pause.
08 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1917: i just don't see what there is to wait about. honestly.

just vote for the draw Mal and lets be on with it please.
09 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1917: I hate you all anyway:P

j/k
11 Jul 11 UTC Spring, 1918: Wow, am I an idiot and forgot to pause? Doh. Luckily the timing worked out.
12 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1918: this is gong nowhere any more.

Can we just all draw?
Right now?
12 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1918: no?
12 Jul 11 UTC Autumn, 1918: Mal.

do not vote for the draw.

Wizard has an ultimatum from me. if he does not act accordingly, you get the solo next year. period.

so if you can hold on a few more hours, you might get the solo
12 Jul 11 UTC Lol!!
Don't know about your world, but usually an ultimatum only works if the other person actually knows about it.
13 Jul 11 UTC Mal -

Wizard and I have come to an understanding. I am voting for the draw and we are holding the stalemate line. this will be the 4th consecutive turn I think where you have not broken the stalemate.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

France
Malleus (2719 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
Italy
TheWizard (5364 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Russia
Babak (26982 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
England
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
LanGaidin (1509 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
Laoban (1230 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Germany
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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