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Finished: 07 AM Sun 12 Sep 10 UTC
What did I do to deserve this?
1 day /phase
Pot: 402 D - Autumn, 2013, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Public messaging only, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by alexintour (1262 D (S))
26 Aug 10 UTC Autumn, 2008: [India]:@Russia, I will support Vladastock to Korea this spring; please support Iraq to Saudi Arabia. I would also suggest a fleet at Ukraine, so that you can stick it in the Med.
26 Aug 10 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Russia]:india - will do.
27 Aug 10 UTC Spring, 2009: [South-Africa]:@ Ghana, I'm movingo into East Atlantic, ok?
30 Aug 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [India]:@Russia- S far as I'm concerned, we have an alliance; I'm not going to attack Vladvastock, for example, though you may want to stick an army there to protect it just in case.

@ Western Canda-- how about supporting Russia into Germany and/or Italy? It looks like its you, me, Russia, and USA against South Africa and Ghana and Oz. We're going to need to cooperate, since South Africa seems pretty determined.
30 Aug 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [Russia]:india... glad to hear it. i'm allied with you too -- your move to Imo made me nervous thus the move to Irk.

western canada, i'd welcome the chance to work cooperatively with you.
31 Aug 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [India]:Russia, please keep building fleets in Moscow and/or st. pete. (and bring your fleet down to the Med). We're going to need it, I think.

Western Canada-- mind pulling back from the Barents? And consider supporting Russia into Germany from France. You're going to have to scramble to help protect the USA from South Africa, who's about to start convoying armies onto the North American continent. (you should probably pull back Barents, Arctic Circle, etc. to fight SA, unless you wan to risk losing your home territories.)
31 Aug 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [South-Africa]:@India Hi there. Thanks for the good words. No possibilities of collaboration between the two of us?
31 Aug 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [India]:South Africa-- the problem isn't that I wouldn't work with you, the problem is that you're actually taking steps against me already(supporing Southern Indian Ocean, for example-- and I reciprocated with support for Kenya), and were previously working with Kenya prior his dropping. I've been slugging it out with Kenya and Oz the entire game, and now it appears that you're swinging fleets around to exert pressure directly (i.e. Tanzania and Southwest Indian). Is the chance of my working with you zero? No. What do you propose? Are you willing to keep out of the Indian Ocean? (I can live with Southeast Indian so that you can protect your flank). Do you object to my taking a portion of Africa? Say, Egypt, Chad, and Ethiopia? Would you help me do it? I certainly don't mind you crushing Ghana out of existence.
01 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [Oz]:Now, now, there's no need for any more alliances, I (the Oz) am perfectly happy keeping SA's flank safe. Besides, who do you (SA) think India will attack after he crushes me (Oz)...russia or south africa?
01 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [South-Africa]:@India. actually we both are taking steps. I supported indian ocean WHILE you was supporting Kenya. You probably are worried, but you and Russia have more centers than me, and I'm worried too. My allies don't answer me (Ghana) or quit (Kenya), and the only one who moves (OZ) don't do any request of help. You are three moves away of Chad and you asking that center... Is it a serious proposal?
@OZ say if you need anything. we still need some Kenyan fleets doing nothing around the world, but if I can support you in any way, I'll do it.
@Lybia, if you move, go with the fleet to Mauretania please (also Ghana - Niger if you want Algeria back).
01 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [South-Africa]:@Ghana, sorry, it's not Lybia, it's Ghana... if you move, go with the fleet to Mauretania please (also Ghana - Niger if you want Algeria back).
01 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [Western-Canada]:Russia okay i want Italia, you take germany ok ?
01 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2009: [India]:@SA I said chad? Oops. No, that's not serious, that's a typo. The idea of India taking Chad is laughable. I meant Ethiopia, Northern Sudan, and Egypt, or something along those lines.

Yeah, I'm worried where you're concerned, but we don't seem to have crossed a line yet. :You have some fleets in the Indian Ocean, but you've not sent overwhelming strength my way yet either. And we've never directly battled-- you've just thrown support behind Kenya, and Kenya and Oz have been battling me the entire game. Thus I'm irritated at Oz.

As for Russia, you're not worried about him-- he has a grand total of two fleets, and one of them is in st. Petersburg. He's nowhere near you and can't get at you even if he wanted, any more than I can get at OZ.
01 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [Russia]:is it wrong to feel inadequate when someone points out the miniscule size of my fleet? lol

india.. let me know if you need anything. until i hear from western canada i'm pretty much stuck moving to the front.
01 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [Oz]:@SA...I would ask you to take nw indian if possible, but you have your hands full with other stuff so I don't want to be a bother.

And yes india, you're not lacking when it comes to irritation yourself. (If you weren't fighting me or kenya what exactly would you be doing in this game?) What else is irritating is china, near east and pacific russia abandoning and letting you expand so easily... :/
01 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [Oz]:@SA...you attacking south pacific ocean would be much appreciated.
02 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [India]:@OZ, I took over India second-hand. china had already quit when I took it over, as had near-east. But Pacific Russia fought for quite a while (with your help)-- it wasn't me that took him, it was Russia. But yeah, I sort of exploited the opportunity. Grin. I figure that South Africa has this one, though. He should be able to overrun USA, Western Canada, Kenya, and Ghana to win outright. So hop to it, SA! This game's a forgone conclusion. 8) (which doesn't mean that you and OZ haven't done a great job).
02 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [South-Africa]:@OZ Sorry, I didn't confirmed my moves, but I've done everything you asked. :)
@India My position is due only to defections. I myself picked up SA from anarchy, hoping others would continue, but it seems I was wrong. It's really hard to play a good game with 1 day deadlines...
02 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [Libya]:What did I do to deserve this?
02 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [Oz]:heh, I'm new to the site, but did anyone ever won with Lybia?

And I guess I'm just annoyed by people's lack of commitment, this is my third world diplomacy game and all were decided by people abandoning. :/
02 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [Oz]:And thanks SA.
02 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [South-Africa]:@OZ, actually you helped me more some turns back against Argentina, so thank you.
I'm impressed by your defence. you did quite well against you enemies, and I'm happy I was not one of them :) Tell me if you need something else, and if you can send a fleet somewhere(northeast pacific, southeast indian), we can find a way to give you some centers.
02 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [India]:Yeah, it looks like it's just myself and russia still around.
03 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2010: [Russia]:It is def annoying when people just leave a game... Go out with honor!

Oh well game on...
03 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Oz]:@SA...I'm supporting your NW Indian and could you repeat your move with se pacific?
03 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2010: [India]:@Russia, go ahead and take Italy-- just support yourself in from Germany (I'd suggest using your army in Austria). In the north, I'd suggest St. Pete-West Siberia, to clear St. Pete for another fleet build in the north, you're going to need it if Western Canada is dropping as well. We can crack into Africa next year, but at this point, we almost might be better off letting SA take it all so that the game can end.
04 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Russia]:@India... Yep. @everyone else... How bout we focus on eliminating the no-shows and taking india's suggestion that we wrap this up quickly?
04 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Oz]:haha, ok...but I'm claiming Mawson...I don't care about the rest.
04 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2010: [South-Africa]:@ OZ Mawson is yours.
@ all it's ok for me obviously...
04 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2010: [India]:Laugh. Hurry up and sweep the world, SA. You should be able to blitz North America and Northern Africa easily enough. 8)
05 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2011: [India]:@Russia-- I'd suggest throwing Western Canada out of of the Barents and France (since he's not around) and either moving your fleet to spain (and thus Turkey-Med), or supporting Saudi Arabia to Egypt.

I'm not sure we should bother opposing SA at this point-- its impossible. But its something to do while he overruns NA and Africa.
05 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:Yep... Way ahead of ya.
07 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2011: [South-Africa]:@OZ I'm holding northwest indian. if you do the same with Northeast indian and south china, you can go for Mawson .
08 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2011: [South-Africa]:@Russia I don't care about Godthab. you can have it.
@India what about just staying where we are and you get Egypt right before the end?
@OZ it's nice to see you in the game. Want to move in yellow sea to take Japan? Do you need me in West Pacific Ocean or you want to go there from Pacific Islands?
08 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Oz]:@SA...well, if you don't need it I'm happy to grab it.
08 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Oz]:I'll move to yellow sea, so you can move to west pacific...or you can use central pacific for something else...I can move pacific islands to west pacific.
08 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2012: [South-Africa]:@OZ, ok, so move by yourself in West Pacific. I won't move there.
08 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2012: [India]:@SA - that's fine with me in Egypt. I'll keep attacking it; maybe Russia will support me in at some point. But I'll stop there (i.e. not contest your conquest of Africa).
09 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 2012: [Russia]:Support for India into Egypt coming this turn
09 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2012: [India]:Thanks Russia. You know, it's been a frustrating game (I took over India). But it was nice to have a reliable ally to the north. Too bad there are so many quitters. Heh. Congratulations to South Africa and OZ.
09 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2012: [India]:Oh, and Russia-- I'd suggest convoying an army from Scandanavia to Godthab (with support from Thule), then move fleet st.pete to Scandanavia. This will get you another fleet build in the north.
09 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:@India why? I'm ok with Russia getting that center. All those fleets aren't useless?
09 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Not so useless if I want to defend against you getting the win out of one of my centers!

Take ghana's and let's be done with this (I agree w India) super frustrating game. Global public messaging only is something I think i may only want to do once in my lifetime :-)
Ps @India I return the compliment. I entered late too and it was nice to have a trustworthy ally...
09 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:@Russia I'm not so greedy. :) 1 or 2 centers of difference is not really so important, right?
09 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Now, now... Let's not gloat shall we? :-)
09 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:@Russia.from my point of view, I've almost won, so trying to take a center or two from you does not make much sense to me. Also, I was just lucky with the others quitting the game, so I wasn't definitely gloating. sorry if you understood my last message that way...
09 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:No no I was just kidding. You deserve the win.I was just ribbing you. :-)
10 Sep 10 UTC [India]:Congratulations, South Africa. Good playing with both you and Russia. Oz, not so much (my compliments to being a pain the entire game, OZ. Good play on your part).
10 Sep 10 UTC [South-Africa]:Thank you, OZ, India and Russia for this good game. OZ, you did an outstanding defence!
11 Sep 10 UTC [Russia]:good game all! hope to meet you on the battlefield again..

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South-Africa
alexintour (1262 D (S))
Won. Bet: 28 D, won: 214 D
47 supply-centers, 29 units
Russia
yaxay (1484 D)
Survived. Bet: 29 D, won: 83 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
India
rhydon (3098 D)
Survived. Bet: 26 D, won: 63 D
13 supply-centers, 12 units
Oz
bebop (213 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D, won: 44 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Ghana
Resigned. Bet: 10 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Kenya
Resigned. Bet: 15 D
0 supply-centers, 2 units
Libya
The Lord Duke (3918 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Quebec
og11 (768 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Frozen-Antarctica
sacredgnome (244 D)
Defeated. Bet: 11 D
China
gothic73 (196 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Western-Canada
fuggy (122 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Argentina
terjesc (106 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Pacific-Russia
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Near-East
Lord Vile (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Europe
kiltedscott (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
USA
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Brazil
Crenshi (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Civil Disorders
gothic73 (196 D)China (Autumn, 2004) with 0 centres.
caiobex (100 D)South-Africa (Spring, 2003) with 6 centres.
Spartan6648 (100 D)Ghana (Autumn, 2000) with 3 centres.
greenpanreus (0 D X)Kenya (Autumn, 2008) with 10 centres.
whitesox05 (187 D)South-Africa (Spring, 2002) with 7 centres.
SimeonTheGreat (100 D)USA (Autumn, 2010) with 4 centres.
tietsort (100 D)Russia (Spring, 2002) with 7 centres.
European Politics Student (103 D)Ghana (Autumn, 2010) with 4 centres.
opium (100 D)China (Autumn, 2000) with 4 centres.
kiltedscott (100 D)Europe (Spring, 2005) with 7 centres.
drwho (100 D)Frozen-Antarctica (Autumn, 2000) with 3 centres.
fuggy (122 D)Western-Canada (Spring, 2011) with 11 centres.
Aleksandar (100 D)India (Autumn, 2002) with 6 centres.
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