Finished: 04 AM Mon 25 Jan 21 UTC
WE KNOW YOUR NATURE
1 day /phase
Pot: 350 D - Autumn, 1913, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
29 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1907: I suppose until Russia returns? Not sure when but shouldn't be longer than 3-4 days left
29 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1907: All the rest of us can unpause in readiness
31 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1907: Many thanks for the pause
02 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1907: I think this is the most colourful stalemate line I've ever seen.

The only question is, do we have a 6-way draw or will England and France turn on each other?
03 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: I’m proud of our 4 countries against all odds
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: If nobody wants to go for a three way then it's time for the draw vote. Step right up. I will accept it. An enjoyable game and good work by the four powers. : )
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: No, you’re all right there, England. Austria, Italy, Russia and me want to try for a 4-way ;)
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: Give us a few centers and we'll consider the draw
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: Mars, Mun, Berlin and StP should do it
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: Or someone defect
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: Happy to keep bartering away until one of you makes the stab
08 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: Guys its been two years and the pieces havent actually moved. Canwe just call it already. This is boring AF
08 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: Fine by me
08 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: The Eastern Alliance would be happy to work alongside whichever one of the Pinks or Blues attacked the other first. Just puttin' it out there.
08 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: England particularly has great options. At a stroke you could take Berlin, Holland and Brest all at once and revel in the joy of a huge slice of the pie... or maybe even a solo at that point, come to that.
11 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1909: And turkey breaks ranks and justifies it because we put our draw votes in. Oh well. Good game.
11 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1909: I mean we had the chance to draw, England even put the vote in. If you guys weren't so greedy this game would likely have been over 2 weeks ago
11 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1909: I like my diplomacy slow and passionate
11 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1909: And TBH turkey breaking ranks really overshadows how impressive England and I were dealing with a 4 v 2
11 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1909: It’s ultimately difficult to coordinate between 4 different countries. The possibility for missteps multiply and we made some critical missteps. But yeah you all put up a great fight. Kudos.
20 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1911: Good time for a draw if you ask me
20 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1911: Hear hear
20 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1911: Sounds good
21 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Well, I tried.

To Italy, Austria and Russia - sincere apologies for my treachery. Rightly or wrongly, I judged our position and internal dynamics essentially hopeless to the point where I honestly felt I had little option left but to to take the carrot offered by France, even though I held very little hope that he would turn out true to his word (as has proved to be the case).

I shall now just ready up turn by turn so we can all get it over with. Congratulations to England and France - a... shall we say, intriguingly solid alliance throughout the game. Perhaps one that can only be forged over a few rounds of golf, if you know what I mean.
21 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Turkey I know you think England and I know each other outside this one game. It’s just simply not the case. You’ve confused a friendliness that developed through communication into something that it’s not.
21 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Merely a suspicion I had based on an odd thing you said, which I queried with you at the time and which you denied, and that’s good enough for me. No problem.
21 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Turkey,

I really don't have trouble with your gaming choices here, they were a logical choice. I am hurt by your reference to rounds of golf and my alliance with France. Golf is considered a "gentlemen's game" in that you keep your own score and call penalties on yourself. Diplomacy is also intended to be a "gentlemen's game" although it requires, and encourages, lying to enemies and allies -- but not across games. For me, "Anonymous" really means "Anonymous". If by chance I get in a "non-Anonymous" game with someone I have gamed with before I may make game decisions based on what I thought of the repeat player (either pro or con) but I will not conduct cross-gaming activities. That's not fun.

However, I do have some golf buddies that have trouble keeping their score and sometimes bend the rules out of ignorance or to try to have a more fun round.

It's been a good game overall. We got lucky to find a key hole in the four country line of defence a few years back I think we are about ready to call for the draw.
21 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Blimey, England - that’s something like 50x more than everything you’ve written to me all game
21 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Yeah. Sometimes I talk too much. Sorry about all that rubbish.
21 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1912: Turkey, that's a pretty serious accusation and I'm pretty sure a bannable offence. I don't think they are words to use lightly and this is certainly not the channel to raise concerns if you do have them.
22 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1912: Ohhhhh dear, it seems my tone really didn’t come across properly at all, sorry everyone.

I am not and I was not accusing England and France of meta gaming. France made a very odd comment in private press a few turns back which made me a bit suspicious, but I simply asked him about it upfront, and he denied it, and that was it. My reference to it just now on global was meant to be a good-natured teasing, not a serious accusation. Sorry for any miscommunication or bad feeling, which is not my intent
22 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1912: All G. Prepare to die lol
22 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1912: Make it quick - I’m readied up and ready to die defending Constantinople from the infidels
22 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1912: Who killed your father, Montoya? lol
22 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1912: The six fingered man
24 Jan 21 UTC This was fun :) Thanks for the game!
24 Jan 21 UTC Boys and girls - marry someone you’d allow to be on 16 scs when you only have 12 yourself. That’s true love.

Thanks for the game
24 Jan 21 UTC If I’m completely honest this game was a disaster on almost every front I still don’t know what I think of it...
24 Jan 21 UTC Good game, everyone. Can't blame you for the stab, Turkey, but we had such a good thing going there!
24 Jan 21 UTC Yeah... sorry :(
24 Jan 21 UTC I know I play a different type of game than most. I'm told I should try for a solo every time if I can go for it, or it's not real Diplomacy. I'm still trying to work on that but It's not in my nature. So I'm not a successful dictator but I'm a pretty good "Kingmaker". Is the Avalon Hill Kingmaker game playable on-line like we do with Diplomacy? Thanks for putting up with a slightly drawn out game -- I enjoyed it.
24 Jan 21 UTC Russia explain your take :)
24 Jan 21 UTC When four people have to work together with the scraps of life to make a stalemate they don’t make demands about the draw. They take it fast.

From that to E/F breaking through but then keeping me alive deliberately and then not pushing on for the solo...

Odd
24 Jan 21 UTC We tried to make it as friendly as we could :)
24 Jan 21 UTC *Stares in Austria*
25 Jan 21 UTC Lolol
25 Jan 21 UTC Russia should we have killed you?
25 Jan 21 UTC I mean yea, England also should have soloed in a normal game but this was very irregular.
25 Jan 21 UTC Keeping you alive was an important tactical choice as far as I could see. Had I managed to take Sevastopol I think I could have forced the three way draw. England’s defending it screwed that plan and essentially guaranteed my failure.

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France
Succotash (47 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 211 D
16 supply-centers, 14 units
England
Mark Murray (215 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 119 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Turkey
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 21 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Russia
Nephthys (2409 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 1 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Germany
dumptruck (835 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Austria
himbo (465 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
Bohonk (2060 D)Austria (Spring, 1904) with 4 centres.
ChilliKrakka (100 D)Germany (Spring, 1904) with 3 centres.
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