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Finished: 07 PM Fri 25 Sep 20 UTC
Private Compiegne 2
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1913, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by vulfy (460 D)
14 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Germany here.
14 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1901: England, I know who you are!
14 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Do you actually, because I don't know who's who
14 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1901: I take that back, I think I know who Italy is
14 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Are we playing Guess Who alongside of Diplomacy? :)
14 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1901: I believe I may know the identity of England. And I harbor some reasonable suspicions regarding the true face of France and Russia.
14 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Hi all!
15 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Hi guys!
20 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
22 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: Farewell all. A bit of a shocker of a start, but we all have those sort of games from time to time. Hope to play with you all again soon.
23 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: Gg Austria
23 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: Good game, Austria. Thank you for playing and staying until the end of ends.
23 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: It's good etiquette to play to the end regardless of your position in the game. Good luck and I look forward to the third installment.
23 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: I am absolutely sure we're going to have a third one! I'd make it into a periodical event actually. We've managed to put together some good bunch of players.
23 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: GG Austria!
24 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
26 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1904: This is relevant to another game I'm in, Can you support hold a troop if you know it's gonna bounce in a different location?

So example:
Say France wants to support hold Marseilles with Spain and he also intends to use it to bounce Gulf of Lyon with the Western Med. Will that support hold work and would an enemy need 3 surrounding troops to take Marseilles?
26 Aug 20 UTC Spring, 1904: I'm little unclear, but the rule of the thumb is that you cannot HOLD support a unit that is ordered to MOVE.
26 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: I am somewhat embarrassed to say that, although I've trialled that, I've somehow never quite kept note of the outcome well enough to respond to that question. I'll tentatively say that I *believe* it works.
26 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: Russia is right here. If the unit in Mar is moving, even to bounce, the support hold will not work. So it would only require two surrounding units to take Mar in your example.
30 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1905: Another rules question relevant to a different game:

Can I push myself out of a territory?
Example: Support English Channel into North Sea from Norway. What happens to the fleet in the North Sea?
30 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1905: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
30 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1905: You can't dislodge your own units. The only exception is to offer support to a foreign unit attacking your unit.
05 Sep 20 UTC Spring, 1907: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
11 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Finally, England has to disband 2 units. How I have waited patiently for this very moment!
11 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Not sure if there's anything to celebrate given the position of Turkey and Italy.
13 Sep 20 UTC Spring, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
18 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: England, Germany, and Italy. There is a path to stopping Turkey before he gets to 18 units. I'll communicate with each of you individually about this.

However, I wanted to send a global message to emphasize that stopping Turkey requires us to cooperate. If any of us attacks each other, it will only create an opening for Turkey to win. So I hope everyone agrees to set aside old animosities and work together.

In case you think I have any ulterior motives in making this statement, please see that I have already entered my draw vote. I just want to stop Turkey and finish in the draw.
22 Sep 20 UTC Spring, 1912: Turkey knows we have a stalemate line set up, but he’s going to play things out for a couple of seasons to see if one of us does something stupid. As long as no one stabs anyone else and we all hold the line, Turkey will have to draw.

If anyone actually stabs, we should all make sure that Turkey solos so that the stabber gets no points. If we all approach it with this mindset, everyone should stay in line.
23 Sep 20 UTC Spring, 1912: Anyone else ready to vote draw?
23 Sep 20 UTC Spring, 1912: I'm drawing. I forget to put in the rest of my moves. But it doesn't really matter
23 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: England?
24 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Turkey:

Burgundy will support Silesia to Munich.
Gulf of Lyon will attack Western Med. to cut its support.

Congratulations on the solo victory.
24 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: England: all you had to do was hit the draw button. Seriously, what did you think you had to gain by picking up two meaningless supply centers?
24 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Thanks England!
24 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Really, England?
24 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: You’re 9 v Turkey’s 16. Think about it.

And you just broke our stalemate line.
24 Sep 20 UTC Autumn, 1912: Game over. England blew it a second time, unbelievable!
24 Sep 20 UTC Spring, 1913: This game will be like Eurovision Song Contest:
United Kingdom, 0 points
Royume uni, 0 points.
24 Sep 20 UTC Spring, 1913: England: I am genuinely curious. Did you want to help Turkey to solo? Is this motivated by spite?

Or did you not realize that you would get zero points from this game regardless of how many supply centers you have?

I am just trying to understand your behavior.
24 Sep 20 UTC I'm bored
24 Sep 20 UTC What does that mean? You just wanted to do something crazy?

If you were bored with the game, drawing would have ended it.
24 Sep 20 UTC Well, it's been an interesting games, folks. This wasn't the ending I anticipated or hoped for, and I don't think we're going to get a better explanation from England.

To throw in my 2 cents or perhaps to rationalize, we started Compiegne 2 following a 3-way draw game with the agreement that everyone will do their best to "play to win." England facilitated that for Turkey. And although I may have my gripes with that decision, I would be wrong to overlook my role in that too.

Congratulations, Turkey. You were trustworthy when you had to be, and you deserve it with or without England handing it to you.

France is probably a personal MPV. Appreciate the sacrifices you took and for standing by your word. The attempts to rally everyone worked well on all other accounts. And of course, appreciate the communication throughout Germany - I confess I wanted you dead for the longest time when you refused to turn on the Western Triple.

Russia - I stand by my claims that you are the player I trust the most throughout the entirety of the game in spite of what my actions may indicate. It came down to intrigue over a less common alliance with Turkey-Italy.

And Austria, again, it's a shame you were out early. It would have been interesting to see what could have come from that.
24 Sep 20 UTC And who is who? I played Turkey in the first Compiegne game.
24 Sep 20 UTC I was Germany in the first Compiegne game.
24 Sep 20 UTC Russia from first Compiegne game.
24 Sep 20 UTC Germany: I'm sorry I suggested the Western Triple in the first place. We obviously should have worked together to take out England! But our alliance survived the duration, so thank you for all of your assistance.

Italy: You were a great adversary turned ally. It was fun working with you to try to solve the Turkey problem. We almost made it.

Turkey: Great game. I think the timing of your stab on Italy was pretty much perfect. You really took advantage of England shattering the Western Triple and used the chaos that followed about as well as you could have.
24 Sep 20 UTC Italy: It seems we always end up working together, even if that is not my initial intent!
24 Sep 20 UTC Thanks guys for the invite into Compiegne 2. Not a great game from me, which I'm sure we all have. I'd love to be involved in the next installment!
24 Sep 20 UTC I’d be up for another round. I’ve enjoyed both games with this group.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Turkey
vulfy (460 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
England
Survived. Bet: 10 D
8 supply-centers, 7 units
France
sideroxylon1 (833 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Italy
neerrrrr (157 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
Germany
BlueRurik (25 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
Austria
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
Szpoti (1446 D Mod)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
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