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Finished: 12 PM Sat 18 Jul 20 UTC
Private 1v1 training with the bossman
1 day /phase
Pot: 10 D - Autumn, 1906, Finished
1 excused missed turn
Game won by swordsman3003 (13181 D (G))
10 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Okay so in my opinion there are two reasonable openings for France, a many for Austria. Do you know what those two openings are and why you would pick one or the other?
10 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1901: I know the main opening: Bre-ENG, Par-Pic, Mar-Bur but I do not not which opening it tends to compete with.
10 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1901: The weakness of my opening is if your fleet goes to GRE you then go on to reach TUN before me. I believe your move to VEN gives me more time to reach TUN.
10 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1901: The other French opening is Paris to burgundy and Marseilles to Piedmont. It is a huge gamble; if Austria doesn’t opening to Venice then France has a big advantage, but if Italy does then France is in trouble right away.

You have to do it sometimes as France to keep Austria “honest” in their openings.
10 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Ok, I see
10 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1902: build F MAR rather than F BRE was the other option I had. Did my prob of winning just drop a few %s?
10 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1902: No that’s an acceptable build here, that’s what I would build
10 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Clarification
I would build fleet Brest.

However I would have built an army at Marseilles instead of Paris. Can you tell me why?
11 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Couple of extra options perhaps. Moving to PIE to pin the fleet at VEN or getting a quick build from spain?
11 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Yeah and the extra options interfere with my ability to find the right line of play.

From Paris I pretty much know you are moving that army to burgundy (and if you aren’t, then you’re playing sub-optimally somewhere in your move set)

From MAR, you can move to burgundy just the same if that is your plan. But I have to wonder if you are moving to piedmont. I might choose the wrong counter moves.

It is important for you to threaten to make many different possible moves so that I have lots of opportunity to make mistaken guesses.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: Try to describe to me the guessing game we are playing if Germany. This is what I call a “zig-zag” guess.
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: great point on PAR vs MAR in this position
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: This position gets a bit confusing for me. You will move an Army to BER while MUN can block KIE or hold. If MUN holds I should move to KIE otherwise I should move with support to MUN.
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: Austrian armies in KIE and BER would be a game killer so thats what I will try and protect against
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: Good!!
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: You should have moved you fleet to Spain or WMS instead of Portugal
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: Interesting, because Spain sc is 2 away from TUN and POR is 3? Never considered that.
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: Correct!
13 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1903: I was tempted to build A MAR and tie up some of your resources around VEN but I thought a race to the Med was a higher priority this move.
13 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1903: Hm. That might be okay, but let’s see how this plays out.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: Okay so you’re set up to prove my weak points, I have few units in the med or the north.

There is a guessing game we play over our fleets, and one we play in Germany. We have the ability to counter each other hard in Germany and soft in the med. can you see the options?
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: As the pieces lie you can hold onto MUN or BER but you cannot do both. This will be a 50/50 hard guess I believe. I think the situation in the MED is you can capture ROM or TUN either way I probably go to TYR and stay in Spain for a build. Not sure on this phase.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: was hoping to trap the Berlin army in KIEL, unlikely moves from Austria?
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: Ah I see the german position better now, you can defend with support orders no matter what moves I do. There is no guess.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: Alright I'm going to raise your awareness here:
Your guess was "Is Austria going to hold everything, or not?"
If you think Austria will not hold everything, then the right play is to attack Munich or Berlin (there's some variation here)

If you think Austria WILL hold everything, then your counter-move is:
HOL to KIE
Convoy KIE to SWE or LIV (using Baltic)

I take it you didn't think of trying to convoy your army as a counter to my trying to hold everything. Now that I'm describing it, do you see it?
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: You're in trouble now, because I don't need Tunis to win. I only need 2/4 of TUN/MUN/BER/STP, and I've got 3—with no easy way for you to knock me out of two of those three that I have.
14 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: wow I really missed the convoy options, now I see the full potential of the fleet in BAL!!!
14 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: So last turn I varied my play and risked Berlin to interfere with your obvious move to Piedmont, gambling that you wouldn’t try to attack the center again or if you did it would be at Munich.
14 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: I considered army convoyed to TUS which may have worked better in this case.
14 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yeah that would have been a GREAT play, as the only way for me to counter would be TYR TO TUS, which is a very silly-looking move if it fails (players are reluctant to make counters that look silly if they don't work out)
14 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1905: Hey hey hey how’s we’re talking, I like the convoy aggression a lot. Now you’re playing like a player who wants to win this match! Sneaking armies between my lines is a way for France to overcome Austria’s early momentum and take advantage of France’s inevitability by buying time
15 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1905: better late than never!
15 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1905: If you remember my “lives” theory of this matchup and how France needs correct guesses to win: I had not lost any lives until you made your excellent convoy guesses against me. I was sweating a little bit because I felt like that cost me 2 lives.

But this turn, I think I got the guesses right, and now there may not be enough turns left for you to take away all my remaining lives. Serbia plus turkey brings me to 19, so I can afford a bad guess somewhere and still sit on 18.
17 Jul 20 UTC Good game, thank you for the notes and walk through. I have some interesting stuff to review.
17 Jul 20 UTC You are very welcome. I'm glad you learned a lot. Try playing a few more matches against others, and then we can rematch.

Also, you can play against bots on webDip. They're not too bad.
18 Jul 20 UTC will do

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Austria
swordsman3003 (13181 D (G))
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
18 supply-centers, 15 units
France
Badarian (95 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
12 supply-centers, 13 units
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