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Finished: 12 PM Sat 08 Aug 20 UTC
Private Nexus Gunboat 2020 game 21
18 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1915, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by teccles (1860 D)

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08 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1904: Moderator: (gimix): 3xAUS
3xITA
3xTUR
4xBalkans
Sev
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Tun?
Mun/War/Mos
Mar/Spa/Por
08 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1904: Moderator: (captainmeme): Hi all,

We had an unfortunate mistake from a member of the webdip mod team here in confusing the notes/global tabs. Still deciding what action to take, so I've put the game on pause in the meantime.
08 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1904: Moderator: (captainmeme): Game is being unpaused again and continuing. Obviously there's not an easy choice that can be made here, but we think the message was vague enough that it shouldn't impact the game, and that playing on is the best course of action.

We've also contacted the player in question and asked them to be more careful about where they post notes in future :D
26 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1912: GameMaster: Dip Yogi was banned: repeat idiot. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
26 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1912: Moderator: (captainmeme): Game paused while we sort this out.
27 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1912: Moderator: (captainmeme): Replacement in & game unpaused. Game on!
31 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1913: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
02 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
02 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: Moderator: (captainmeme): Paused while I contact Austria
02 Aug 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: Moderator: (captainmeme): Game is back on!
07 Aug 20 UTC I really enjoyed this match up until around the time Erik outplayed me tactically and then got banned. I am pretty salty about this match and I don't think I can say anything constructive right now.
08 Aug 20 UTC Moderator: (Claesar): Sometimes there are no winners :-(
13 Aug 20 UTC @swordsman we all would appreciate some AAR by you
14 Aug 20 UTC What I hoped to gain from playing in this tournament—in return for agreeing to play with a tournament rule set that seems to me to hardly be Gunboat Diplomacy as I know it (scoring based on center count and a very short turn limit)—was an opportunity to play a high level match.

Among other things, I expected players in this tournament to be able to respond to what is happening on the board strategically. In my other Nexus match, the game was played at a fairly high level. Here I think whether me or Eric had overpowered the other, that player would get a solo win. that’s an experience I would expect from a 10-point pickup game (which I rarely join at this point in my “career”).

From a tactical perspective I think I resisted Germany long enough for other players to have prevented the solo win. That didn’t even come close to happening, so I feel like I wasted a lot of time and should have just hit a resign button as soon as Eric was topping the board. (I already have a poor opinion of scoring systems based on center count; even if I had held out until 1918 that draw would be worth next to nothing)

I am also immensely frustrated that my opponent (it felt like there was just one) was replaced at the turning point in the match. I think my best ability is to understand and read other players based on their moves. Every turn gives me a lot of information to work with.

I felt cheated that I had to stare down a turbo-charged Germany with nothing whatsoever to go on about who the player was—but that player got to know anything about me they wanted to know!!! Not only do they get turns and turns of move data to review to learn how I think, the player can probably infer that I am BrotherBored and get all that info as well.

Meanwhile, there is nothing for me to go on. Past moves of a completely different human being don’t tell me anything. And I did not know who the player was that join our match, so I had nothing I could infer or look up based on the identity of the player.

This was devastating to my morale, as I had spent significant effort trying to learn what I could about all of you to incorporate that into my decision making. I was trying to figure out who you were and what not.

In the end I’m confident Eric would have solo won either way, but it still gave me a terrible feeling.

I feel so bitter about this match that I doubt I’ll join any Nexus tournaments for some time to come. I was warned by others that a Nexus tournament would not be to my liking, and I guess they were right.

I don’t care to point a finger. I believe every person is just doing the best they can.

However, I try to think about what I could do differently.

And what I can do differently is to find matches another way than through the Nexus tournament structure. I feel confident that I would have had more fun playing a pickup gunboat game here on webDip or arranging a match on my own. Even if I had to deal with problems like players getting banned or players lacking experience, at least I would have my preferred “draw sized scoring” and without a turn limit warping they gameplay. Or I guess I could hold my own tournament with my preferred scoring system, unlimited turns, and some kind of seeded preliminary round.

Thanks for reading this. I hope you learned something, even if it was just about how I think. I apologize if this lAAR was an occasion for you to feel bad. That’s not my intention. I planned to just forget about this and move on, but since gimix asked, here it is.

Heads up: I am not willing to argue with anybody, or defend my views further. I am already burnt out and hearing criticism or even just disagreement will probably only upset me and not actually help me see things differently. If you think I need a change of perspective, I encourage you to reach out to me 6 months from now when I may be in a better frame of mind in this regard. If this conversation continues and you don’t hear from me further, please understand that I am likely ignoring the conversation purposefully.
19 Aug 20 UTC Almost everyone in this tournament was playing Gunboat for the first time.

Nexus does not equal high-quality play. Nexus attempts to bring everyone to the same board, regardless of the platform they're from or their skill level.

The finalists in a Nexus tourney might be expected to be quite good, but if you're looking for an elite group of players overall, you're likely right that looking elsewhere will get you more.
19 Aug 20 UTC I don't say that to disagree with you - only to offer another person's perspective, and largely to agree with you.

Best of luck.