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Finished: 02 PM Fri 31 Jul 20 UTC
pratice-4
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1910, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Autobahn Bismarck (192 D)
22 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
23 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Is England gonna no show again?
23 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
23 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1901: yup.
23 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Hi everyone, I'm the new England!
23 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1901: hello! as you can see previous England quit without submitting a single move.
23 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1901: I see, good for me haha
29 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1903: I hate playing turkey. does anyone want to 7 way draw?
29 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1903: it would be nice to see it happen
30 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1903: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
02 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: vote draw guys. 7 way draw
02 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: I'll take your sc's if you don't want them
02 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: Get in the queue old chap .. lol
04 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1903: France must put readyv
07 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1904: We have to unpause
07 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1904: friends, I'm still down for the 7 way draw
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: Can I explain why the 7 way draw is the best choice for all?

- Russia is down to 2 and France to 3, so the merit of a 2 way draw is obvious for you two
- England is at 6 but does not have easy access to more SC. You have just tried to dot Germany for Paris but been foiled which leaves you as a very awkward position as Germany builds this turn and you do not (it would be even worse if Germany had one of Mun/Ber unoccupied and was able to build, but he does not). If Par was arranged for some reason you have a similar problem; if I were Germany Id be looking to stab very soon regardless as with Russia's forced disbands there is no more pressure on my home SCs and I'm free to lay down fleets and rush the North Sea. An awkward position for England and not one where it is possible to solo from as your units are too far out of position to stab Germany.
- Italy is similarly in a terrible position as I have just taken the Ionian and you are unlikely to make any progress in France before I take something off you, especially as Austria doesn't fully trust you either and just moved out of Albania, leaving him unable to exert pressure on Greece but very much able to exert pressure on you. If this goes on for much longer you will likely be eventually ground down/eliminated, or just face defeat from a German solo which I being Turkey have no way to do anything about.
- Austria faces very similar problems to Italy, basically no hope of ever expanding fast enough to be a viable solo contender and now needs to deal with a wall of German units hungry for further expansion. Also now that you have failed to kill me through a series of extremely uninspired attacks, you're unlikely to ever get to a position of strength - which is impossible for Austria as long as Turkey lives.
- I, Turkey, detest playing this power and see a 7 way draw as my personal best potential outcome since the beginning.

I have now explained why its in the interest of every power but Germany to push for a 7 way draw, but that being the case, if everyone else wants a 7 way draw Germany must accept it, since otherwise we have the strength to all go after him and cut him out of the resultant 6 way draw.

-So Germany you too should accept a 7 way draw to prevent the scenario where 6 players, if they were rational, would all currently try to hold you to a 7 way draw or else kill you.

Thanks for reading. Vote 7 way draw!
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: I mean sure
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: Alright, I suppose I've got to offer a rebuttal here:

-I've played Turkey twice and this is my first time as Germany. I've also never been part of anything better than a 3-way draw, so I would very much like to keep playing.

-I'm perfectly happy to split a 2-way with England, as long as we're careful to arrange things so that neither of us is a danger to solo. I've offered to swap Paris for Belgium and let England sweep through the Med while I move my tanks eastward, and as long as I stick to building armies and England focuses mostly on fleets, this strikes me as a workable arrangement.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: I wish you the best of luck in that task.

http://uk.diplom.org/pouch/Zine/S2001M/Ledder/TwoWayDraws.html
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: Well, we'll just have to make our own line, then!

Or more realistically, winnow it down to 3 at which point you force a draw by threatening to throw the game to England.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: I know, I know...that's just so *boring* though, poor Turkey stuck in a box herself the whole game until the Anglo-Saxons arrive at her doorstep. England seems to agree; I see he's put in a draw vote as well.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: I want to continue to! Personally I play turkey twice and really love ed to play it and win one time solo
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1904: well i doubt either you or i will solo this one buddy
20 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1907: I wish to report that the proud state of Portugal will bow to no pressure
20 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1907: Respect.
20 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1907: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
24 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: England I'd pay money for a book authored by you, titled How To Be a Patsy.
24 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Why a patsy?
24 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: b/c Turkey expects me to go for the solo
24 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: and from this position, it would be pretty hard to stop me if I did
24 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Ok ok
27 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Germany, looks as though we're willing to try to stop you.
27 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
27 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Well, don't keep me in suspense like that!
27 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Hi, new Turkey.
27 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Welcome, thanks for joining!
28 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Oh, nevermind, England's going to throw. Cool.
28 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Good game, Germany!
30 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1910: really throwing
30 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1910: Absolutely.

-Do you have any books on turtles?
-Hard back?
-Yes, with little heads
30 Jul 20 UTC lol
30 Jul 20 UTC Good game, all!
30 Jul 20 UTC G g
30 Jul 20 UTC Well, that was very disappointing. France, Turkey, y'all fought the good fight, kudos. Congrats Germany, and good game all.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Germany
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 35 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
England
Shinreib (142 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
8 supply-centers, 10 units
Turkey
RayJay (1369 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Italy
Rhizomatic (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Russia
Brooksy0021 (137 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
France
inquisitor000 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
Telboy203 (30 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
jasnah (132 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1909) with 6 centres.
GUnit (100 D)England (Spring, 1901) with 3 centres.
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