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Finished: 03 AM Wed 15 Jul 20 UTC
Private Allies-3
1 day /phase
Pot: 175 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Unranked
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
22 Jun 20 UTC Autumn, 1901: Yeah, there's little need for keeping ones word in this variant.
23 Jun 20 UTC Autumn, 1901: I've managed to keep my word
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Hey, look at that. England has chosen to be Russia and Italy's Pink Poodle.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Maybe you should try and be polite to people and not talk about their genitelia.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Whatever lapdog.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: France I am sorry you ended up with such a dick of an ally.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Yeah, sometimes I feel guilty when a player dies early. Sometimes it just makes the game more pleasant.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Pfft. Dick of an ally. If I was a dick I'd be attacking France. But, sure, call me a dick for disrespecting a ringer.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Any clue why our turns take an extra six hours?
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: If you want to accuse anyone of cheating, i would like you to contact the moderators and now make accusations in this chat.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: *not
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Who's making cheater accusations?
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Who's making cheater accusations?
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Cheater is not the accusation. Throwing the game? Sure. His actions only make sense as a griefer. As I told France, I don't negotiate with terrorists.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: A ringer is someone who joins a game with the purpose to cheat.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Whatever. Terrorist.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: See, That is an accusation you are allowed to make. Glad i've managed to improve your press.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: *Shrugs* I am having fun. I am still baffled by players who chose to lose.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Austria, you could, instead, of throwing insults, try to convince England to do other things.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Ur making assumptions, Russia.
24 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1902: Well, I'm not assuming about the insults...you are clearly directing those words at England. Whatever the case, it really isn't cool...but you do you? Just know that kind of messaging can easily earn you more enemies and hate.
25 Jun 20 UTC Autumn, 1902: Hey look England, your master is stroking you. Nice puppy. Whose a good puppy.
27 Jun 20 UTC Spring, 1903: To forestall anymore questions, of the like. No. I will not be working against Turkey. He's about the only thing that might balance the map, especially with the Lap Dog of the North trying so hard to throw the game.
06 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1906: I guess we all have to vote unpause after that major crash the site had yesterday.
06 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1906: Sorry about that late vote, I have unpaused.
06 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1906: No worries. My other game still only 3 of us have voted unpause.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Thanks for the game everyone. It was an interesting format. I wonder now if Russia and Italy wish they had kept their 1901 agreement with me to attack Turkey and Germany. Good luck for the rest of the game.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Thanks. Definitely would’ve been interesting to see how that would’ve went, but what’s happened happened so can’t really go back now :P
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Italy, do you think you have a chance of recovering from here, or should we just call the game as an English & Germany/Turkish win condition?

I don't think the experiment particularly worked, so I'm keen to get people's thoughts on why not before everyone drifts off or forgets.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: In my honest opinion I think this turned out okay, but the gameplay just got really skewed in a sense. The ally portion was fine, but the gameplay was still a bit unbalanced. It doesn’t work very well so to speak.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: I feel like Austria got a lot of people offside very quickly which didn't help. It would be interesting to see how it goes without an obvious target.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: *snorts* Play it again. I'll root for u being Austria.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany starts off in just as bad a position with enemies all around
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: *Shrugs* It's generally agreed, that Germany, is a great power to be. The only power more disliked for it's position, is Italy, which loses slightly more often then Austria. Now, in this map, I am not going to quite assume all holds true, but, every single alliance meets up, but destroying Austria. That kinda sorta MAYBE makes Austria a bit of a tough spot, in this variation? I mean? I dunno.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm thinking that the non-adjacency issues made the alliances less fun, and led to one out of each pair getting clobbered quickly. I'd like to try again with FE, AG, RT, and Italy as the lone one out. Italy is normally in a hard position, but the rules we are using here seem to make the odd-one-out an unattractive target and an attractive ally.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: I think Austria had a bad start diplomatically and tactically, but that just accelerated the inevitable difficulty Austria and France had in not being able to work together.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Im fine with drawing now. I feel the lone power was in a great position. Just latch on to whoever you like best and roll with it. The best part is that i get to go back on alliances.

For the record in the scoring department, i was planning to keep Russia behind my lines to make sure the g/t victory would be tarnished by their survival :-)

I dont think I will join again with fixed alliances though. But of you all start a new game, I will observe it.
13 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: This variant is a challenge because you not only have to do diplomacy with your enemies as usual, but with your ally as well, trying to get onto the same page strategically and diplomatically. I would try it again but with different country pairs and different personalities to see if it makes a difference. Perhaps make it not anonymous so we know who our allies are.
14 Jul 20 UTC Why are we still playing?
14 Jul 20 UTC I suppose we’re just waiting on Germany to place the draw vote.
14 Jul 20 UTC Appologies
14 Jul 20 UTC It’s good
14 Jul 20 UTC Thanks for playing everyone. Is the general consensus that this didn't particularly work well? I'm going to try it again, with different country pairs. Don't feel obliged to join, but do feel welcome.
14 Jul 20 UTC I didn't mind it. Might need some slight twerking but I thought it could have gone eother way in regards o Italy russia or Germany turkey
14 Jul 20 UTC England was the deciding factor
14 Jul 20 UTC I liked the idea. I kinda like the other pairings mentioned earlier. The salty part of me would rather anyone who thinks that diplomacy matters for Austria in this one gets a chance to be the meat in the middle. But, that's just salt.
14 Jul 20 UTC Diplomacy always matters. With your press i wasnt gonna help you, ever.

I dont know how your press was with the other powers, but you convinced me my goal was to kick you and your ally out of the game.
14 Jul 20 UTC :p
14 Jul 20 UTC I genuinely don't care about you. You opened with a terroristic threat.
14 Jul 20 UTC Right....

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Turkey
Dioptre (201 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 25 D
15 supply-centers, 11 units
England
De Wimp (233 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Italy
Squigs44 (273 D Mod)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 25 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Germany
Vanwalten (189 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 25 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Russia
OnlyShots (284 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 25 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
France
cdngooner (192 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Austria
TomareUtsuZo (216 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Civil Disorders
Minister of Silly Walks (0 D X)England (Spring, 1901) with 3 centres.
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