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Finished: 08 AM Fri 01 May 20 UTC
Private NDS4 Game 28
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1910, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: No, I know it's SoS.
21 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: I will Set Draw after Retreats.
21 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Italy and I have set draw.
21 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Me too
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: My orders are ready again.
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Ready
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: It was my fault.
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Any chance we could all click the Ready Button?
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: My retreat is ready.
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Italy why the move to eastern med? I’m already dead lol
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: He's afraid of Zombies!!!
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Lol
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Treacherous Turks cannot be trusted even after they're dead.

Move to the Eastern Med is to cover centers.
26 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Got it
27 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Italy told me there's a bit of schizophreny in this game... yes, you're right
Italy has invented a new type of unit, the commuting army :D but while retaking Mar helps France elsewhere...
Austria commits to help France, then agrees to betray him and help me in Belgium in return for me leaving StP, then takes the gracious gift but steals Kiel, and doesn't support me but on the other side doesn't warn France...
By the way i say "steals" Kiel because that's not a stab: a stab is something you prepare and execute and comes as a surprise - that was a trivial lie, nothing more...
France is angry at me, ok, so perhaps his behaviour is the most reasonable, though he is losing to Italy more than is gaining from me...
And me, yes, i'm probably the worst one. I had for ages the chance to stab France and gain 3 or 4 centres, and i didn't - and then made a mini stab for just 1...
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I want to talk about the Nexus tournament a bit: it is my first time participating. Kudos to organizers to bring all platforms together and try to be inclusive. In non-tourn game I'd had drawn 2 years ago and here I'm forced to grind additional SC to compensate for the extremely high rate of solo achieved in non-webdip platforms, with a huge portion of it due to NMR (I found at least 3 solos like this). With that in mind, I propose to talk to organizers to reconsider the scoring system and remove 100% for solo, keeping SoS. One may say it is minimal fix, but I will say it is a good fix, because it will prevent people who achieved 100+0+25 to have a real shot for a final, because 100 will become 70-75 and you will be required to show your skill in more than 1 solo due to NMR. And whoever scored 2 solo or was strong regardless will be unaffected by this change and no one will challenge their skill. I leave it here to ponder and if one of 7 of us here thinks there is merit to what I say, could you please send a quick message to organizers with the opinion. Thanks.
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: My understanding is that they're not using SoS in the next tournament. I think they're using Tribute scoring, which still give the most points to Top-of-Board, but gives more points to people who finish with low center-counts.
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: How often does the tournament happen
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Seems like twice a year.
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Ok
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I totally agree with Austria, SoS/WTA with a capped game time and some solo due to NMR's is a recipe for messy end-games. And the option of a "pure" SoS seems quite reasonable to me.
But yes, i too have heard they are going to switch to Tribute scoring next season.
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: http://windycityweasels.org/tribute-scoring-system/
this?
it does not solve NMR problems at all.
Webdip is the only one with it solved and whoever plays on it will be at an extreme disadvantage. I was not able to find a single solo on webdip so far. With 8 solos conspiracy/backstabbr. Considering webdip had over 50% (and it is likely ~70%) of games, I find this concerning. But perhaps I'm overthinking it :)
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: 19 was webdip.
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: @Austria, you should check on Discord, i don't know if the system they're thinking of is the one you cited
@France, if webdip has more than 50% of games and 1/8 of solos i would say there is a problem
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Personally i am tracking my results using an average of Draw Size Score (with Winner Takes All) and Points per Supply Centre. So a solo is around 75, a 2-way is always 50-50, larger draws depend on how many centres everybody has.
It could be an average of DSS ans SOS, of course, but it would not change that much so i keep it as simple as it can be
27 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Even 19 had holds in Austria performance. Not sure what Ger and Aus logic was.
28 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Ahhhhh the Windy City Weasels. I had the pleasure of playing FTF against/with Jim Kelly and several other Weasels at a few conventions over the past 15 years or so. Sadly, I am not located near enough to a large metro like SF, LA, Chicago, NYC/Boston/Philadephia/DC, or Atlanta to enjoy a FTF club like the Weasels.

Here's my take on these online tournaments: there is no social penalty for abandonment, seriously poor play, or - dare I say it – cheating. I'm not fixated on things beyond my control but then again, I don't run Dip tournaments online. I think it's very difficult to control for outlier results and many mitigation strategies produce poor outcomes.

Thanks for an enjoyable game. I think the endgame in this game faced an outsized influence from the tournament itself, both regrettably and understandably. While maximizing outcome in this current format is predictable, the urgency to do so becomes only heightened in late games.

I should point out that this is my only tournament game which likely has contributed to my lack of concern over my own outcome...
28 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: You're wise, my friend. Though this is my second Nexus tournament, and i feel the defects you outline had been less prominent in the first one - maybe this time more people understood the tournament mechanics and adapted their play :D
But after all, tournament or not, i play to have fun, and i enjoyed this game and even the endgame shenanigans
So Austria, France, are you casting your draw votes?
28 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: England wrote > are you casting your draw votes?

Playing the final year will probably hurt me, rather than help me, but I have to live up to Germany's low opinion of me.
28 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I did
28 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: We will not have time to finish the year till May 1st
28 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thank you all for the good game. It was best of my 3 in terms of fun. Face to face tournament is my dream. Once I work on my patience perhaps.
28 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I invite you both to ready your orders. I will not set draw at this point.
28 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: @Austria You can read the AAR from France for NT19 if you want to know why AG stopped playing. That said many of the other solos were filled with NMR's which is quite frustrating. It would probably be better to have multiple rounds of play, Qualifiers -> Semis -> Finals, which would eliminate some of the high variance found in unreliable players in earlier rounds.

You also can't make a solo worth less than 100%. It is the only definition of winning in Diplomacy, and if you choose to make it 75% as you said then there are some scenarios where a player can score more points via draw than via solo, which doesn't make any sense. If you scaled it down to compensate then you might as well have just kept the solo worth 100 points.

@France lmao
29 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I get the feeling that ya'll really don't like one another.
29 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Was only laughing at France's joke
29 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Ah, thank you. I mean, I would understand the annoyance in a game of Dip, and while I'm not necessarily one to vent, I can enjoy a good vent by someone else. As long as I'm not the target...
29 Apr 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Hell, maybe even sometimes when I AM the target.
29 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1910: Not that anyone cares, but my orders are Ready.
29 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1910: France, can we just draw now?
In 31h the game is officially over. We will not have time to finish the fall move.
You are welcome to drag it if you have any reason, I'm just not sure what is the point.
29 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1910: I want this turn to process. Hell, I like the Fall turn to process to, even though that could potentially be very bad for me. I realize England will almost certainly not let that happen, but I have no reason to set draw at this point.
30 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1910: It's probably wise.
30 Apr 20 UTC gg everyone, I really enjoyed this one. Active press, interesting tactics.
30 Apr 20 UTC gg everyone. I am working on my AAR on the Nexus Discord.
30 Apr 20 UTC naive Q: what is AAR?
Great game.
This was the best of the 3 I played in the tournament.
I'm currently 7th...fingers crossed.
30 Apr 20 UTC After-Action Report. Sometimes called an EoG (End of Game) statement.
30 Apr 20 UTC thank you!
like after-action review - I should have guessed, as I do it all the time :)
30 Apr 20 UTC GG all, and good luck to Austria
30 Apr 20 UTC Good luck austria

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Austria
MaxVax (5610 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 21 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
England
gimix (1521 D Mod)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 6 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
PigInZen (187 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 6 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
France
Elladan (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 4 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Germany
Riewel (210 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Jacob (2562 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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