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Finished: 07 AM Fri 17 Apr 20 UTC
SKAILTGAIDCPYFKN
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1913, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
0 excused missed turn
Game won by jengamaster (2083 D)
13 Mar 20 UTC Spring, 1902: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
05 Apr 20 UTC Spring, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
16 Apr 20 UTC I could cry about misinputting orders for Spring 1906, but I think it would have merely prolonged the inevitable. Nice job Germany!
16 Apr 20 UTC gg Germany. Congrats.
I confess I joined by mistake in low pot game here and should just say that I have not seen more idiotic play than France showed here.
16 Apr 20 UTC I have rarely played France and will admit that I sucked both strategically and tactically. It is a bit rich to hear criticism from the graveyard, though. Maybe you should play more low-pot games and figure out how not to be eliminated by idiots?
17 Apr 20 UTC Fun game. I know, it is easy to say that as the victor.

France thank you for going hard at England. In gunboat, as either Germany or France I have to view England as my most serious foe and need the other France/Germany player to go at England. This game it worked out.

Around 06/07 I saw a real possibility for a solo. Mostly because the south was too jumbled, and there would never be the fleets necessary to keep me out of Tunis.
17 Apr 20 UTC Ok, so strategically speaking, my biggest mistake was not allying England against Germany when I saw that Germany's continental position was so strong that attacking England would only invite the inevitably effective backstab once I was out of position. I will say that continued English aggression and Germany's sizable fleet made me concerned that, however risky it was to attack England, the possible English/German alliance or German occupation of English home centers would have meant certain elimination. Knowing that Germany was unlikely to move armies out of position for the purpose of taking English home centers, I thought it unlikely that I would be able to do to Germany what Germany ended up doing to me. Thus, it seemed like the gamble of trying to take English home centers before being backstabbed was my best bet to defeat a strong German player. I bungled it, but I wonder what England or Germany thinks of that thought process.

I am also intrigued by your comment that England is your biggest foe, though, as I would think that France or Germany would be the biggest foe of the other. What about England makes it seem a bigger threat to you than France (competently handled)?
17 Apr 20 UTC And France, I am very keen to hear your thoughts on this. I am always willing to learn from the criticism of other players, especially when I have performed poorly. My issue with your previous statement is that it wasn't constructive. You can excoriate me, but please do so in a way that teaches me how to avoid making the same mistakes in the future. Your not obligated to help me, but neither are you entitled to vent your spleen with impunity.
17 Apr 20 UTC That should read "And England" lol I suppose I will return to the leftovers of humble pie in the fridge.

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Germany
jengamaster (2083 D)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 35 D
18 supply-centers, 15 units
Russia
groundhog (644 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Italy
The Fox (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
6 supply-centers, 5 units
Turkey
Valis2501 (2585 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 5 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
England
MaxVax (5610 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
France
kbchitown (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
Cmdr Shears (1201 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
JoeyLegend89 (100 D)Italy (Spring, 1902) with 5 centres.
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