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Finished: 09 AM Thu 27 Feb 20 UTC
Say it to my face-2
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 280 D - Spring, 1908, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1905: How about we all draw now?
20 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1905: Russia, would you be willing to postpone a build? I can agree to make no moves more aggressive than an unsupported tap on a province you already occupy.

France, if we attack Germany, I'll claim only Munich for myself and support your advances from there. We'll need to be sure to maintain our position against a possible Russian double cross through the process.

Sorry, Germany.
20 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1905: No apologies Italy, I was the author of my own destruction
20 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1905: I will postpone one of my builds, this is acceptable.
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: StP and Sevastopol are moving up to fill Livonia and Rumania.
I'd like to keep the north sea empty, but if occupying it is a necessity for the takeover of Germany then I will support myself in to assist.

We also have some very important repainting work to do in Clyde, Albania, etc. - kindly do the needful!
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: You can’t argue you’re way out of this one Russia. You’re well on your way to a solo and any alliances you make are not balanced. You own an entire edge of the map for crying out loud.
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: And don’t make others waste their time repainting of all things.
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: Shush, England, you don't even go here.
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: What do you mean?
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: Russia, will you be moving Smy-Syr as part of repainting efforts?

France, Russia isn't too serious of a solo threat here, contrary to England's pleas from beyond the grave. We need to make sure he doesn't become one, though. His fleets pushing into AegS or NthS while remaining in NwgS would be particularly concerning.
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: Russia nearly has as many SCs as Italy and Germany combined though, and could easily take multiple with one well-planned turn.
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: @Italy that was the hope.

Would an arranged bounce in the north sea be preferred?
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: From current position, I doubt I could take more than three before I'm stopped utterly. I'll chill here.
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: @Italu & @Russia I’d rather sit on the side of caution, I’m okay with bouncing in the North Sea
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: Alright, swell! Make sure you order NAO-NWG, or England will belly ache.

I'm aware that you can move a third fleet to the north sea area and take it this fall; obviously I'd prefer you didn't.

@Germany you mentioned getting out of the way; where are you off to?
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: ‘Tis true Austria
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1906: That fleet doesn’t bode well for you France
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Tyr-Mun
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: roger that
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Not loving the 3:1 fleet situation in the Med, Italy. You gonna keep sailing east?
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: moo
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Russia, bounce in Eastern Med and I'll avoid Aegean?
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Works for me!
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: lol
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Russia, I didn't wake up early enough to follow through with my end of the deal and you appear to be too ambitious to have followed through with yours. I still don't think you are strongly positioned enough to take the solo, but it does mean that I have to treat our border as a no holds barred zone. This now has the potential to end in a four way draw rather than a three way.

France, would you please move Mar-Pie next turn? I officially trust you 100% not to stab me since Russia then could not be stopped. I will think more on whether these developments warrant a switch in our policies to support for Germany, happy to hear your input. The battle for the North Sea doesn't look like an easy win for you.

Germany, would you be willing to accept help from France and me at this stage?
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: It's 13 SCs to 11 SCs now. France will realize that if Russia is trying to go for a solo, they'll have to start conquering Germany and Italy as well to keep up.
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: @Italy I didn't believe that you would follow up on your end of the deal; that was a correct assessment. Happy to keep working towards the triple as I had described; fighting with you is tiring and not at all necessary.
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: @ Italy yes - your trust is appreciated
22 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Also, please ready up your retreat order, Italy!
23 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: So I gave you both (@Italy @France) conditions, under which I would stop moving my units and forsake trying for a solo; you both violated them this year. So I continue to be happy to take a FIR finish, but I can't trust either of you and you're going to have to wrestle me for it. Can you finish Germany before I hit 18? Probably. Race is on :)
23 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1907: France, I really wish you had built Fleet Brest. I don't think there's any way for you to defend the North Sea long term now. You need to find a way to rotate your MAO fleet into action ASAP.
23 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1907: Or we each capture one German center and are all chill friends?
23 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1907: @italy you’re right, that was a miscalculation on my end... I’ll pivot and make it work
23 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1907: I'm willing to draw at any point.
23 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1907: Me too - once Germany is wrapped up
23 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1907: Cool cool cool.
24 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: France, please move into Piedmont this phase. I don't think there's a way for us to agree on moves in the Munich region without giving away too much information.
24 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'll say this much - I won't be making a 2x force attack on Munich, so France, don't worry about bouncing me with one of your own.
24 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Who are you worried about overinforming?
24 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Mostly Germany, also you, just a smidge.
24 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: ;)

I feel like 100% collusion finishes Germany this season 100% of the time, and innuendo might let them linger. So I'll start - I'm going to hold Denmark, and try to force the North Sea, while probing the Italian eastern wing; don't expect to see a breakthrough there, though.
25 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: @italy we are on the same page!
25 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Russia, will you be tapping Silesia again?
25 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: That was my thought, yes.
25 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: With the infantry in Piedmont, I don't believe I will come out ahead in Austria. Gaining the north sea is good, I might be able to grind forward, but not before Italy can throw to France. Therefore, I'll put my draw vote up in the spring.
25 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Good game all :)
25 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: Really enjoyed this one! Great game you guys!
25 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: To you as well!
25 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: GG all!
25 Feb 20 UTC Right on.

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Russia
HundoL (85 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 93 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
France
AJPietro (266 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 93 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
90kicvesb (3824 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 93 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
England
Duaner02 (1367 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Germany
Acesfull4488 (130 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Austria
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Turkey
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
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