Finished: 08 PM Tue 31 Mar 20 UTC
Weitlbrot
1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 231 D - Autumn, 1921, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
2 excused missed turn
Game won by giorgio. (3634 D)
20 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
21 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
24 Feb 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
27 Feb 20 UTC Spring, 1910: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
06 Mar 20 UTC Spring, 1912: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
07 Mar 20 UTC Spring, 1912: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
20 Mar 20 UTC Spring, 1915: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
30 Mar 20 UTC Turkey, did I misread your Armies moving back to Armenia as a betrayal or were you trying to help?
30 Mar 20 UTC omg, Russia, where to start. game so easier drawn. Do you want the full debrief or not? You snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. I've been trying to help you for dozens of turns.
30 Mar 20 UTC of course you misread it.
30 Mar 20 UTC please give a debrief. There was a brief moment where your fleet in Barents Sea and my Army both tried to support each other's attack. Where did the Armies being convoyed back come into play vs France?
30 Mar 20 UTC I will try to be kind, as you seem to be new.

1) You had Munich and Berlin, just march up armies to the front and support HOLD. Do not do all those failed attacks, which were predictable enough that France was able to counter attack and retake Berlin and Munich. Just support hold. Trieste should have marched up through Vienna to Gal to Silesia, then just support all hold, game over, draw.

2) starting about spring of 1917, my army in Con was supporting your fleet into Bulgaria. You never looked at the text orders did you? On the main map, when a unit holds, and it is not obvious what it might have done, go look at the text orders, always check this. For MANY turns, I was supporting you to Bulgaria, which in gunboat is the clear go ahead to take my SC, so that you could have built another army. You never saw this.

3) after all that. my last chance to save you was a pass through move. A pass though move is when a few unit get ready to walk thorough your SC in spring, to move through them. A betrayal is a mass deployment of forces, which I did not do. Look at the fleet move to East med. If I had actually wanted to attack you, that fleet would have gone for the black sea, but it did not. This was clearly moving up two armies, so I could pass through Sevastopol to Ukraine, and Budapest to Gal, so I could reinforce your crumbling lines.

if you are not sure, whether it is a pass through or a betrayal, always assume it is is a pass through. because the pass through was the only way to save you, if it is really a betrayal, you are dead anyways, no matter what happens. I am sure France knew it was a pass through.

Again, all you had to do at that point was to support HOLD, and I would have back filled your lines in Gal and Ukraine with Turkish armies. Another thing you can do to set up a line, is a fighting retreat. Do not let him kill your front line armies, pull them back to a stalemate line. You kept letting him kill and destroy your front line forces.

You need to study how to set up a stalemate line, as this was really bad. Not trying to offend, but still. France must have been laughing his ass off in glee.

In general, to set up a stalemate line, you get the units i position and support hold. your insistence on multiple counter attacks, in a very predictable manner, greatly helped France pick you apart.

My lone fleet behind his lines was worthless distraction, and had nothing to do with any of this. All it did was slow him down slightly.
30 Mar 20 UTC I wrote these orders FOUR times:

The army at Greece support move to Bulgaria from Rumania. (fail)
The army at Constantinople support move to Bulgaria from Rumania. (fail)

which is literally BEGGING you to take Bulgaria from me, so that you can build another army. If you had read these, you would have taken Bulgaria. I bet.
30 Mar 20 UTC interesting, I actually did not know there were text orders...
30 Mar 20 UTC aha! now you know!
30 Mar 20 UTC bottom left, "archive: orders"
30 Mar 20 UTC LOL - wow. this is going to revolutionize my games! Here I thought all we had were these unclear arrows! Thanks for the insights. Yes, I'm relatively new compared to many players here. See you in the next one, Tugster. We've had quite a few games together I see.
30 Mar 20 UTC another option is the center icon below the main, and it opens a "large map" this will show failed support orders. do it right now for fall of 1917, and you will see my armies supporting your fleet into Bulgaria.
30 Mar 20 UTC it's the preferred communication method of strong gunboat players.

This is how to write orders in gunboat.

1) use all the units you need for you tactics first of course.
2) but if you have any units, any at all, for which the only order is hold, then write a diplomatic message with it instead. Don't worry if you know it wont actually do anything or work. Write is to send a message.

Examples: a fake convoy. send a convoy across the map, use enemy fleets, it wont work, but it will draw a big red arrow. This always means ===>>> attack that guy! You an convoy from con to London, if there is a chain of fleets of many nations along the way, even though of course those fleets wont do the convoy the big red arrow still shows up.

Other examples support an allies to move someplace, encourages them to do it the next turn.

Also, support hold, especially when support it not needed, means "Lets be friends!"

There are more, but never, ever, write a plain boring hold order.
30 Mar 20 UTC and always check the text message when you see what looks like a boring hold.
30 Mar 20 UTC here I thought the whole fun in No Messaging mode was the added confusion :P

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France
giorgio. (3634 D)
Won. Bet: 33 D, won: 231 D
19 supply-centers, 17 units
Turkey
Tugster (13048 D)
Survived. Bet: 33 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Russia
bobbytang (1127 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
6 supply-centers, 5 units
England
Ienpw_III (348 D)
Defeated. Bet: 33 D
Italy
Defeated. Bet: 33 D
Germany
benlai (576 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Austria
MaelwysII (695 D)
Defeated. Bet: 33 D
Civil Disorders
Boulder (100 D)Russia (Autumn, 1909) with 4 centres.
modderpoel (99 D)Germany (Spring, 1912) with 4 centres.
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