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Finished: 12 AM Tue 17 Dec 19 UTC
Silence is a virtue, and virtue is a grace, and Gr
1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 385 D - Spring, 1927, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
18 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
02 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Moderator: (bo_sox48): By request, this game is going to be paused for the weekend. If it is not unpaused by Monday morning, please email
03 Nov 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Moderator: (bo_sox48): Unpaused.
04 Dec 19 UTC Autumn, 1921: Moderator: (RagingIke297): This game has been paused by request for 24 hours. If you object to this pause please email and we will unpause it.
05 Dec 19 UTC Autumn, 1921: Moderator: (RagingIke297): Unpaused
15 Dec 19 UTC GameMaster: Minerva1124 was banned: meta. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
15 Dec 19 UTC um.... what happened here?
15 Dec 19 UTC seems like France both refused to vote draw and refused to pull back to give Turkey a few SC for safety so that Russia could be safely eliminated. In the end, France gets eliminated, sort of, well, more points for us! Good job Austria and Russia in setting up the line, a little dicey at times, but we got the job done.
15 Dec 19 UTC Nicely played. Yeah, I saw France asking me to take Moscow, but not willing to give up 2 centers.

I didn’t think I’d make it this far after Italy kept attacking me.

Thanks for looking for the draw instead of eliminating me Tugster. Well played. And nice job palesman getting Sev to power the unit in Livonia. Didn’t think you’d manage for a while.
15 Dec 19 UTC Austria, I chose to kill Italy instead of you, because based on style of play, your play was more "big picture", and his was always: "the SC directly in front of my nose." France was ahead of me at the critical decision point, and I reasoned that Austria would help me set up the stalemate line, Italy would not. It was obvious that Tunis was lost (And Italy did not seem to care), therefore, it became essential that Munich or Berlin be held. Austria (and Russia) saw this and were willing to defend one last German SC. Italy did not appear willing to do so. Had I killed Austria with Italy, Italy would have still lost Tunis and kept fighting me, never letting me send the armies up through Gal and Ukraine to get to the places I had to get to to save Berlin. Austria and Russia both stayed remarkably calm, as I carefully marched though Gal, passed through Moscow, etc. to get to Livonia/Prussia/Silesia and to keep the lock on Berlin. I was pretty sure that killing you with Italy would have only led to a French solo.
15 Dec 19 UTC and in the end, both Austria and Russia, did indeed, help set up the line, and never pestered my units holding on to Berlin.
15 Dec 19 UTC And Russia was smart enough to see that Livonia was vital as well to avoid a support cut on Prussia.
15 Dec 19 UTC From very early on I was just playing to be included in the draw. I was surprised at how deeply into Germany and Scandinavia I was able to go. Then when Turkey took Warsaw it looked like I was soon to be eliminated. Disbanding my army in Munich was a way of saying “back off or I’ll throw this game to France”. I’m still not sure if that was the worst move of my game or the best. In any event it was a pleasure to share the board with some very skilled opponents. Gg all!
15 Dec 19 UTC and obviously taking Moscow just leads to a French solo. a skilled France would have given both Tunis and Munich to Turkey, pulled back to the other side of Gibraltar, then sure, Turkey and Austria would have gladly killed Russia, but not from the current board position, no way.
15 Dec 19 UTC Russia, disbanding Munich was disappointing to me, I needed another fleet, and it was obvious that I was not actually trying to kill you, I expected you to just destroy a worthless unit in Scan. Note carefully that the same turn I took Warsaw, i supported you to hold in both Berlin and Munich. It was obvious that long term, all of Scan and Stp would be lost, so all those units were worthless. I was hoping with another fleet to get to Tunis before he locked in down.
15 Dec 19 UTC Like I said I’m still not sure if it was the best move I made this game or the worst. I’ll admit that after I made the move I was kicking myself for the very reasons that you list above. But at the same time your game comments indicate that eliminating me altogether was definitely on the table. So if I gave you any added hesitation in taking me out my strategy was effective.
15 Dec 19 UTC I was definitely trying to stay flexible about when/if/how to eliminate Russia. Especially when Russia was overcommitted to Scandinavia. I was worried that you weren’t able to analyze the key points in a stalemate, and like Turkey said that if I wasn’t ready to jump in that you’d not hold the line. I was sprinting to Livonia when you finally retreated there.

In the end, well played guys.
15 Dec 19 UTC France saved you Russia. Had France pulled back, I would have killed you. Not sure that this was intentional or not, but hey, so goes it.
15 Dec 19 UTC I was set to kill you too Russia, as soon as France handed over Tunis and Munich, I was ready to box off your retreat to Sev. But wasn’t foolish enough to do it before that. And you played very well to grab Sev to hold Livonia.
15 Dec 19 UTC but this end result changes nothing for Turkey and Austria, only gave France's "resigned" points to Russia instead! :)
15 Dec 19 UTC And given Russia’s play and France’s reason for resigning. I don’t mind.
15 Dec 19 UTC This was a first. joined this gunboat game by mistake and had no idea what I was doing :) I'll log it as a learning experience
15 Dec 19 UTC Glad you’re reading the AAR. Tugster is one of the best. And I’m learning gunboat can be really interesting for reading opponents. And if you like press games, helps your board reading a lot.
15 Dec 19 UTC I assumed it was bad form to use the global chat, was reading like hell on the forums to see if I could get a handle on it, didn't pan out too well. Been spying on the game since I got taken out.
15 Dec 19 UTC There was no global chat until the game ended.

Another variant has only global chat as an option.
15 Dec 19 UTC If you enjoyed it, definitely play again.

There’s also a mentor program you can sign up for. I’m using it and have learned a lot
16 Dec 19 UTC gunboat is excellent for teaching how to read opponents intentions via the map and working complex tactics, and predictive counter moves.
16 Dec 19 UTC Thanks guys, I'll consider it

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Tugster (13048 D)
Drawn. Bet: 55 D, won: 128 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
BunnyGo (202 D)
Drawn. Bet: 55 D, won: 128 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
palesman (934 D)
Drawn. Bet: 55 D, won: 128 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Resigned. Bet: 55 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
%kirino% (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 55 D
Thomas Olai (520 D)
Defeated. Bet: 55 D
aha195 (1687 D)
Defeated. Bet: 55 D
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Minerva1124 (0 D X)France (Spring, 1927) with 17 centres.
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