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Finished: 05 PM Fri 01 Nov 19 UTC
Private NDS3 17
1 days /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Unranked
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: That sounds interesting!

Yes, Boston only on Sunday, since CarnageCon is Fri-Sat.
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: No (free) Wifi :( Back in 8 hours or so.
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: I’m alive! Yeah. For now.
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: I’m calling for a draw vote is that the right way to do this?
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: And let me explain: T can’t take Mao even if I’m eliminated. Bel-pic, pic-bre seals the stalemate line even if turkey gets Spain. Marseilles can’t be taken.

You can play it out to eliminate me for a fraction of a point if you want.
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: It's not a fraction :)
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Since it probably doesnt matter for me i am putting in a draw vote aswell. (It actually is just a fraction of a point difference for me like 0.2 if i did my math right)
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Okay maybe I need to review the scoring XD
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: It's a Sum of Squares, so here are the points we would get by accepting a 5-way now, or a 4-way when Turkey has taken the last Italian centre

sc sc^2 pts sc sc^2 pts
t 16 256 _68,82 17 289 _71,53
r _9 _81 _21,77 _9 _81 _20,05
e _5 _25 __6,72 _5 _25 __6,19
f _3 __9 __2,42 _3 __9 __2,23
i _1 __1 __0,27 _0 __0 __0,00
34 372 100,00 34 404 100,00

So Turkey gains something by killing Italy, which is normal since they take one more sc; but R/E/F all loose a little. Funny scoring system
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: That is the same result i have. so its more than a point for russia but that is also normal in this scoring system. Points vary more wildly the more scs you have even if it does not directly involve you
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Thank you everyone for explaining that to me :) so yeah I guess I'm all for the draw then.
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Fingers crossed Turkey just does not want to continue bother with this game while in NY as he is the only one who would gain anything by not voting draw. but we will have to see when he lands.
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: I think a draw would be a nice surprise for Turkey, they would get to enjoy their trip ;)
28 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Well he has at least 1 other nexus game going on over on conspiracy but i agree it would be one thing less to worry about.
29 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Did someone say I can easily increase my score?
29 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm afraid it's the other way around.. As I have little time available, I cannot check where I'm at and therefore cannot vote Draw.
29 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Easily? No one said easily :P
29 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Might be missing something, but I believe I can gaurantee Spain this turn and then keep it.
29 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: That sounds pretty easy.
29 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Yes you can get Spain and two more points, then they have you stalemated. Does anybody have a blindfold and a cigarette?
29 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Uhh Sir this is a no smoking area.
29 Oct 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: I missed the finals by a few points last season..
29 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: NP I just hope the firing squad has good aim.
29 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: I'll hand-pick the soldiers myself.
29 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: So, final scores will be (as posted by England earlier):
Turkey 71.5
Russia 20.0
England 6.2
France 2.2
29 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: Wooo! 2 points even though i took very unecessary risks!
29 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: Alright, you have a stalemat line. I'll vote to Draw in Winter.
30 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: someone needs one more move for a stale mate line actually
30 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: ^truth but i didnt want to be the one to say it
30 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: I don't see it. Feel free to PM me ;)
30 Oct 19 UTC Spring, 1909: Feel free to PM... "someone" :D
31 Oct 19 UTC I pressed Ready. Don't think there's much left to say.
31 Oct 19 UTC Ok... France, Turkey, it's up to you now. Russia and i have already voted the draw
31 Oct 19 UTC Austria meant you should've moved to North Africa. Didn't tell me, but it was obvious. I think you should have gone there, to reclaim Spain ;)

Surely France was on to it.. His subterfuge was nice but obvious to me.
31 Oct 19 UTC I need a bit more time to look at the map since your moves have been very tame (I expected more), but nonetheless I think I still can't improve beyond this.
31 Oct 19 UTC I expected you to move to NAf tbh
31 Oct 19 UTC gg Italy. You did really well to convince me to let me live, but should've let me convoy ;)
31 Oct 19 UTC I considered NAf, but these moves are stronger.
01 Nov 19 UTC Gg! Curse my last minute change!! This was fun anyway.
01 Nov 19 UTC I had to draw so I can sign up for another game. I'm fairly sure you had me stopped though.

Gg all! Thanks for playing.
01 Nov 19 UTC I enjoyed this game! Thanks all
01 Nov 19 UTC GG in hindsight i shouldnt have went for the stab but it was very fun!
01 Nov 19 UTC It was very well prepared and executed, just a bit unlucky. I was not happy but I had to admit it was well done
01 Nov 19 UTC Ggs :)
01 Nov 19 UTC @England: yur flee needed to be in E. Ch.

Turkey could had taken MAO and subsequently Marseilles for 18SCs. There was absolutely nothing to be gained from being in North Sea and even less in Hol
01 Nov 19 UTC your fleet
01 Nov 19 UTC Yes, the move to ENG was the obvious choice, but Russia and I were still trying to steal each other a centre. That's the reason for my move in NTH and for their move to Berlin.
But to take MAO Turkey would have needed a 4x attack, which could not be set up. Even if they took NAf, as I expected, the only way to take MAO was moving from Spa - and loosing it to France. Any other attack was going to fail because support from Spa was being cut
01 Nov 19 UTC Hence I don't think F ENG was a necessary move, though I agree it would have been the safer option to ensure the draw. But I would have lost Hol to Russia
01 Nov 19 UTC Sorry, Russia's move to Kie, not Ber
02 Nov 19 UTC It would had been a 50-50 as France trying for Spain would risk losing Marseilles. Too big a risk. Also, if I were you and Russia takes one of my SCs I would cut support myself from Gascony so Turkey solos

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Turkey
Claesar (4142 D Mod)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
17 supply-centers, 16 units
Russia
pyxxy (242 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
England
gimix (547 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
France
CasaNerd (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Austria
yuuki (1724 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Italy
Guernica Bill (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Germany
Donny Dude (88 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
deslotve (100 D)Italy (Spring, 1905) with 4 centres.
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