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Finished: 07 PM Fri 20 Sep 19 UTC
Apple > Samsung
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Eric1984 (3838 D)
09 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1905: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
15 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
19 Sep 19 UTC gg Italy.

England, you have no idea how to play. your late game attack on Germany was moronic.
19 Sep 19 UTC GG Italy.

And to France I want you to know that ever since Autumn 1902 I regretted my alliance with England (The turn where they decided to supported attack Bel and not get into MAO). I think you played very well even though I got seduced by the anti french meta and was later blinded by my stubbornness.
19 Sep 19 UTC as Germany, it is almost always a bad idea to ally with England. The French border can be made stable with garrisons and better to kill England off. And he showed himself to be incompetent many times, especially at the end when he gutted Germany and allowed Italy into Munich and failed to make to obviously correct moves in and around MAO as well.
19 Sep 19 UTC also, Germany, if you want feedback, as I am an experienced player, I think your major strategic mistake was going after Russia instead of England. roughly 1902/1903, England had France neutralized combined with your armies, you could have taken out England then. Hitting Russia ultimately helped Italy, not you, and it made you subordinate to England, leading later to his ability to stab you and even to his ability to foolishly destroy your stalemate line that we had set up for Munich. If you do not want any feedback, that's okay too!
20 Sep 19 UTC Hello tugster, you are playing very well there. Can i have some feedback from your side too? I feel i won by luck anyway. I didnt do much on my own. I cant even message others.
20 Sep 19 UTC I think my biggest mistake was trying to go munich at autumn 1905. That may signal a pushbacl from germany. But i thought i need to get munich if i want to solo, and it seems hard to get spain or marseiles
20 Sep 19 UTC Italy, I think you played well, and you got a lot of help from others as well, which is always the case when a player solos, with perfect play and endgame defense with experienced player, solos are very difficult. Your opening was highly unusual, to say the least, and you got a very helpful support cut in 1901 on Serbia by turkey, denying Austria Greece for another crucial army in bud.

What often happens when Austria dies fast is that Russia and/or Turkey outpace Italy and crush you later, but in this case, Russia helped you by building a second south fleet, which is also incredibly unusual early in the game, he should build armies and plow into Austria to clean up what you started.

So Russia ended up crippling turkey for you, and Germany then hit Russia for you. So you did well to take advantage of other's mistakes. You should never have taken Spain or Marseilles with correct backup play by England, had he been watching my moves and supported Brest to MAO instead of the support hold of MAO, when it was obvious I was moving MAO to Spain.

And you should also never have been able to take Munich, had England not hit Germany the way he did.

But, you made no major errors at all really, and many others did make errors, so you won and we lost, that's the way it goes!
20 Sep 19 UTC very well said, the famous tugster. I have tried to peace with you by supporting your mid atlantic hold. Does that help? Or do you find it confusing? I was hoping that your fleet wont retreat to med sea, and by doing that, England can switch its focus to either germany or russia
20 Sep 19 UTC I usually open as friendly towards Austria. But as this is gunboat, I don't know how to communicate effectively with Austria on a lepanto
20 Sep 19 UTC i thought your supporting MAO for many turns was very smart. Had you helped England take it, I would have retreated to Portugal and that would have been worse for you later.
20 Sep 19 UTC Lepanto is usually a disaster for Italy in gunboat. Austria stabs while you have an army stuck in Asia. I almost never lepanto in Gunboat.
20 Sep 19 UTC I think an interesting move is germany convoying from Sweden to kiel in autumn 1904. I don't understand the reason behind this move. As a gunboat game, what is that trying to signal?
20 Sep 19 UTC so what would you do as Italy in gunboat?
20 Sep 19 UTC I usually make peace with Austria and harass France a little, concentrate mostly on containing Turkey and wait to decide more on what to do after seeing how the other alliances shape up.
20 Sep 19 UTC yea I tried that too, but at that game I end up stuck at 4 sc and Austria get destroyed by juggernaut. When I wanted to attack turkey it was too late
20 Sep 19 UTC I welcome feedback! I didn't consider it at the time but looking at the map you are right that the attack on Russia did more to help Italy than me.
20 Sep 19 UTC I couldn't figure out how to transition into attacking England when my fleets were so out of position but maybe that was my first mistake. But leaving Baltic Sea and/or Sweden unguarded doesnt seem right either.
20 Sep 19 UTC Hi Italy. The reason behind the Sweden to Kiel convoy was twofold: England had proven so inept at taking Mao that I had decided to disrupt my own defensive line to poke Brest. And so I wanted to hedge against that going completely wrong for me. The other reason was that England did not help me when I tried to convoy it to Livonia. Of course forseing I was going to convoy that specific union to that specific place was improbable but they could have poked Moscow in case I wanted to try something or just to show anti Russian commitment. And because England did not help me I went with a different attack (hostile support war-liv) and I didnt really need more units for that to work so what else could I do with them.

Ironically even with my help England did not get MAO but at least my hostile support worked.
20 Sep 19 UTC I thought you could have use Sweden to support Baltic to Denmark. that way you can move your ship to defend against England. you were my major rival before losing 2 sc to england
20 Sep 19 UTC I guess it comes down to the fact that I didn't see the attack coming. Sure I thought it was stupid/weird to move North sea -> Norway and later Lon->north sea since we needed one more unit to get MAO and later Iberia but I read it as incompetence rather than hostility.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Italy
Eric1984 (3838 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
England
bobbytang (1127 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
France
Tugster (13048 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
4 supply-centers, 5 units
Germany
IAmNew (179 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
Russia
KCelec (620 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Austria
tr1285 (148 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Turkey
MrAsiago (95 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Verming (163 D)Russia (Autumn, 1907) with 5 centres.
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