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Finished: 05 PM Thu 12 Sep 19 UTC
Classic_Dip 11
1 day /phase
Pot: 350 D - Spring, 1905, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
30 Aug 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Hum

Please don't kill me
05 Sep 19 UTC Spring, 1903: GameMaster: ben9990 was banned: multi/meta/no reply. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
05 Sep 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Who was it? Do we have an empty country?
05 Sep 19 UTC Spring, 1903: No, no. New Austria here.
07 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: Is everyone on board to draw after Austria is defeated? (Sorry Austria)
10 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yes.

It’s a weird game. But I think the 5 player draw is the best path.
10 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Ill go with the draw
10 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yes I'm on board.
11 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Already voted.
11 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Well, we have to wait for this turn to end for Austria to destroy units (I think).
11 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yeah I’ll vote as soon as the builds are done.
11 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: If everyone do ready for builds, we can get this game done once Aus is defeated
11 Sep 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Ready to “go” when Builds are finalized....
11 Sep 19 UTC Good game, my vote is cast
11 Sep 19 UTC Draw vote cast
11 Sep 19 UTC Vote in
11 Sep 19 UTC Done.
11 Sep 19 UTC Good game everyone, my apologies to my treachery to England. It was absolutely necessary since they were allied with France but I still feel bad about it.

I also want to confess that it was 100% always my intention to destroy Turkey with Austria and when that player got banned I was lucked my way into a working relationship with Turkey.
11 Sep 19 UTC Was heading for a Italy Aus Russia trio draw for my end, till Aus got banned
11 Sep 19 UTC I was considering that but it might have been too hard since Italy would have had to fight France close to solo and Austria wouldn't have had the ability to help. My original plan was an English/Austrian/Russian end game; though was open to any number of endgames.
11 Sep 19 UTC Yeah my alternate was France, Italy, Aus but England France got very chummy pretty fast
11 Sep 19 UTC Italy you are kinda riding on coat tales of friends for a while at the start
11 Sep 19 UTC I will add my thoughts on this game later when I have a chance. Interesting game.

Good game everyone.
11 Sep 19 UTC I originally wanted a fairly neutral opening to wait and see what would happen with France and Germany. However, Russia's unexpected movements into Germany meant I needed to work with France - and he ended up being a great player to work with. We quickly mended our adversarial situation and created a workable DMZ.

I was then content to get a foothold on the continent and wait out events with a watchful eye.

I am happy with the way the game turned out.

Russia, I still don't understand your attack on me. Did someone really tell you I was going to attack you? Clearly I was in no position to do so. Very intriguing. I wonder who had designs.

I thought all along that Turkey was lucky to survive this game. And I do think if Russia had gone for a solo that he would have been met with a united front that I was trying to organize.
11 Sep 19 UTC Gg.
It was my first full Diplomacy game.
Enjoyed as much as possible, being attacked by 4 players.
Curse you, Italy:)
11 Sep 19 UTC This was my first game as France, so I had no idea what I was doing. Was getting worried about a prolonged fight since no way for me to help England/Italy vs. Turkey/Russia if it came to that without stepping on allies.

I enjoyed discussing the game with Russia. It played out very weird. Definitely a game where I was mostly just trying to play safe.

I feel a little bad about telling Germany to back off, only to immediately step in and take the counterpart to Bur from him while everyone else closed in.
11 Sep 19 UTC You recovered well from Germany in Bur and England in ENG. I thought you were toast for sure.
11 Sep 19 UTC Premature Draw, i.m.h.o. Should have been a 3-way after England and Italy should have been eliminated.
Other than that, some pretty bizarre comments here......
11 Sep 19 UTC Good game France, well done.
11 Sep 19 UTC Germany, that's a tough nation to play. But gg.
11 Sep 19 UTC Turkey, it was either a 5 way draw or a Russian victory the way I saw it. You and Italy would have been locked in a death struggle. IMO.
11 Sep 19 UTC Yeah this could have been a game where I solo. But I’m philosophically opposed to seeking the solo. I am in particularly drawn to how cooperation works in the game. Obviously I recognize the role of cooperation and will stab but my ideal end game is a triumvirate. That’s part of why I campaigned for the 5 way; I didn’t see any cooperative way to get to the three players.

France and England were bound together; Italy blocked Turkey. 5 was the only way.
11 Sep 19 UTC Sorry Germany, but no builds first year paints a massive target on your back.
11 Sep 19 UTC And Turkey, the only 3 way draw state for this game by the end, was France, England Russia, but as Russia said more likely Russia solo.

5 way draw was the best you or I were getting out of this game.
11 Sep 19 UTC Yes Italy I agree.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Russia
ezk3626 (245 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 70 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Italy
DemetriSlavic (124 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 70 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
England
Fletch! (736 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 70 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
France
Delahunt (166 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 70 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Turkey
Pantalone (209 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 70 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Germany
Druska (442 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Austria
Slow (145 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
ben9990 (1338 D)Austria (Spring, 1903) with 5 centres.
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