Congratulations to TheFlyingBoat for finishing second at Tempest!

Finished: 10 PM Thu 08 Aug 19 UTC
OrangesScatter
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 85 D - Autumn, 2014, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
05 Aug 19 UTC [Oz]:I also agree that Brazil deserves his points gained so far. But if he is not willing to tick Draw then we best resist to our best ability.
05 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:I'm a bit more belligerent, perhaps because I recall how Brazil treated Argentina after joining the game, so I would want to reduce Brazil to under 20scs before accepting a Draw.
05 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:I'm not sure that appointing an "El Supremo" is the answer. I'm more in favour of a collective, consensus method. The players with Sth Africa and PacRus are very good, India has proven to be committed to the alliance from the "get go" & the latest player with Libya has also been a contributor and is working well with Sth Africa and myself. The player with Quebec has my admiration because of the plucky, reliable way they have continued to play despite only having two sc's.
05 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:So I suggest that the players most interested in working together on a coordinating committee contact me and we see how we can improve our efforts... to guide not dictate.
05 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:Update.. I'm getting really positive messages from other players. This is the only game I have going, so I can give it the time required.
05 Aug 19 UTC [Libya]:I would feel confortable with a draw right now.
But i will not run from a good fight if we don't all agree on the draw.
06 Aug 19 UTC GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
06 Aug 19 UTC [South-Africa]:Dayum. Thought we were over that!
07 Aug 19 UTC [South-Africa]:SOUTH AMERICA HAS BEEN BREACHED. VICTORY SHALL BE OURS!
07 Aug 19 UTC [South-Africa]:Also I have finally recaptured all my home centres... Sanae you have been missed
07 Aug 19 UTC [Quebec]:I'm not really comfortable dog piling on Brazil, just because s/he is winning. Can we please call or a draw, and congratulate a game week played?
07 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:I would have preferred to be able to deliver on a promise I made to the player with Quebec, which was that I would do my utmost to help that player recapture Quebec's home scs. However since the player with Quebec has clearly indicated a desire to have a Draw, and a majority of the members of the alliance have also indicated their desire to have a Draw I will also for these reasons, and another reason, external to this game (which I cannot elaborate upon) I will post my Draw vote.
I would make the purely hypothetical observation that if a player is having a slight difference of opinion with those who run this site then that conflict is not discussed in detail in the Forum or with other players.
Bon soir & adieu.
07 Aug 19 UTC [India]:Just one vote left needed for a draw. If a draw is not secured, I will serve the alliance as long as it runs.

But I think on balance a draw is the right option at this time.
07 Aug 19 UTC [Brazil]:Good game. Well played all together. "The alliance" stopped me succeesfully from soloing!
07 Aug 19 UTC [South-Africa]:Well played everyone!
07 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:Part of me is a bit disappointed, we in the alliance have missed the opportunity to claim a singularly eminent scalp. I'm convinced that we could have completely defeated Brazil. See how a really top class player manipulated us into giving him an escape with 42 lovely points. Brilliantly done in dividing us, breaking our united intention to defeat Brazil and so simply persuading us into giving up. Waiting until the exact right moment and suggesting a Draw. That's absolute genius at the Diplomacy caper.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Oz]:Congratulations to Brazil on the game. It took a lot of effort for us just to get to this position. You also made some good tactical choices that exploited the difficulties in communication between the alliance.

To everyone else, my thanks and respect to you all for your willingness to cooperate and work together to stop Brazil. Multiple times you all were willing to pitch in and help. What is more you also made decisions in the best interest of the alliance and not for personal gain.

A special thank you to India for your assistance during the game.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Argentina]:A shame the original brazil went into civil disorder and I got gobbled up by this treasonous Brazil. The game would have been quite different if not for that.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:Yes Argentina, you and the original player with Brazil had a good alliance going and you got rather unfairly done over in my opinion, you had deployed your units in such a way that you were unable to defend effectively against the backstab. That fiasco was the principal reason why I wanted to go harder against the usurper than others. But I have to accept the majority decision, and there is an external reason why a Draw was convenient for me. Au revoir, I'm off to dust off my VDip account where I have a disgracefully & outrageously high win %.. with a bit of effort I can hopefully reduce it to something more appropriate.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Quebec]:Good game all. I especially appreciate the support of Pacific Russia and Near East for keeping me in the game, and letting me contribute to the successful counter-campaign.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Western-Canada]:Good game all. Apologies to Quebec for my mis-order on turn two. That put us both on the back foot from the off.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:The player with Quebec was a reliable & plucky contributor, holding the critical Northeast Atlantic during an important part of the game, a real demonstration of the value of quality v quantity. Yes numbers of units are important, but by crikey, so is quality/effectiveness in usage. Similarly with Western Canada. Although I am biased, holding the Northeast Atlantic was of immense importance to PAC Russia and myself, so a big shout out to curnsington from.me.
08 Aug 19 UTC [India]:Well played all. Would anyone like a rematch with these players? We could set up a game with the same settings and have it password protected.
08 Aug 19 UTC [South-Africa]:Doubt we would get buy in from all 17 but I would be game
08 Aug 19 UTC [Brazil]:Maybe we can play one with 10 players.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Western-Canada]:Me too
08 Aug 19 UTC [Oz]:I could be interested in playing with this group again.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Argentina]:I would be interested in having another go at it
08 Aug 19 UTC [Argentina]:probably not password protected though, I doubt all 17 of us are interested.
08 Aug 19 UTC [Quebec]:I would love to. If it were a World Diplomacy game, it couldn't be password protected, but we could set up a smaller game, like modern diplomacy or fall of the USA.
09 Aug 19 UTC [South-Africa]:I actually love fall of USA. It's my favourite map
09 Aug 19 UTC [Western-Canada]:That's my favourite too.
09 Aug 19 UTC [India]:I've gone ahead and made it:
09 Aug 19 UTC [India]:http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=244758
09 Aug 19 UTC [Ghana]:Damn, that looks cool. I'll join.
09 Aug 19 UTC [Western-Canada]:Who will set it up?
09 Aug 19 UTC [Quebec]:Damn. My reliability isn't high enough. I had a bad run of it just after they changed the reliability system, and I haven't quit gotten back to 80% yet.
09 Aug 19 UTC [Western-Canada]:Set it up for lower then
10 Aug 19 UTC [Quebec]:Here's another one, with a slightly lower reliability rating. Look for "Indigo Scatter"
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=244770
10 Aug 19 UTC [Western-Canada]:We all leaving the other one then?
10 Aug 19 UTC [Ghana]:Nah, it started
11 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:I'm not allowed to join games because of (alleged) unreliability issues. Good luck to all players.
11 Aug 19 UTC [Quebec]:Your reliability rating is high enough for the second game, the one I set up.
11 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:Errr... I'm banned at present.
11 Aug 19 UTC [Western-Canada]:Why?
11 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:I'm not going to discuss the details, that will only make matters worse. There's no way I would mention it in a forum thread. I can only make very limited comments. Let's just say it's possible that I have a different philosophy regarding Civil Disorder & leaving games than others might have.
11 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:But it is nothing like being busted for cheating or anything like that.
11 Aug 19 UTC [Near-East]:So I've been a little bit naughty perhaps, but definitely not extremely naughty.
11 Aug 19 UTC [Western-Canada]:There's always room for a little naughtiness.
11 Aug 19 UTC [Ghana]:Until you get banned that is

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Brazil
Theoneandonly (10672 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 42 D
24 supply-centers, 24 units
Pacific-Russia
Garagenpunk (518 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 15 D
14 supply-centers, 13 units
Libya
SpaceDip (773 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 9 D
11 supply-centers, 10 units
Near-East
MajorMitchell (1168 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
India
fildon (77 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 6 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
South-Africa
Hoppsywins (1422 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
8 supply-centers, 7 units
Oz
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 3 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Quebec
curnsington (221 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 1 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Western-Canada
Scarabus (2325 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 1 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
Argentina
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
China
Happydude121 (107 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Europe
Eric1984 (3636 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Frozen-Antarctica
SalmonMan (95 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Ghana
MilesFM (130 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Kenya
Drakon (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
TheArtfulDodger (1214 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
USA
swaglord69420 (205 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
MaxNeuman (100 D)Libya (Spring, 2006) with 7 centres.
Comrade077 (24 D X)Libya (Autumn, 2005) with 7 centres.
noahc127 (22 D)Europe (Autumn, 2002) with 4 centres.
Big_Markus (100 D)Oz (Spring, 2007) with 6 centres.
Ishander (100 D)Brazil (Autumn, 2002) with 5 centres.
Swede03 (95 D)Russia (Spring, 2006) with 2 centres.
Constellation_Lynx (0 D X)Oz (Autumn, 2007) with 6 centres.
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