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Finished: 02 PM Sat 02 Feb 19 UTC
Private Help Durga Get Better at Gunboat
2 days /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1913, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Claesar (4539 D Mod)

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01 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: Moderator: (dargorygel): This game has been paused by request. Please notify the mods with any issues with this, and vote, 'unpause' asap to facilitate the game starting again. Thanks.
03 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: Moderator: (Szpoti): The match has now been unpaused.
30 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Moderator: (jmo1121109): Game paused for 3 days due to a players unexpected loss of internet access.
03 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1908: Moderator: (Claesar): Game unpaused. Have fun all!
30 Jan 19 UTC Good win Claesar... Not sure if Ogion thought he had a shot at it, but he kept me off your side for a long time. Good game all.
30 Jan 19 UTC gg, I guess. Though I'm not sure whether this is a good lesson for Durga :-P
30 Jan 19 UTC I thougt Ogion had a shot at it. That's why I signalled peace to Russia in Autumn 1909. But you built a fleet in Sevas (in hindsight justified) which enraged me into this solo shot. Though I never should've made it.. How on earth did I get to take and hold Munich?!
30 Jan 19 UTC In fact, in Autumn 1910 I was still worried about a German solo, which is why I made another peace gesture to Russia. So I guess I wasn't that enraged after all :-) Time heals wounds.
30 Jan 19 UTC 3 games, 3 solos. jfc everyone needs a lesson on stalemate lines
30 Jan 19 UTC oh wait one of the solos was in a different group. nvm
30 Jan 19 UTC Yeah, Autumn 1909 was when I built a fleet up north too which is why I think Germany came after me... pissed you both off at the same time, big mistake.
30 Jan 19 UTC I want to know what the fuck Germany was smoking this game. No way in hellllll did he ever have a shot at the solo
30 Jan 19 UTC TY Austria for disbanding that Apulia army though
30 Jan 19 UTC Like dude, once Austria was **in Munich** why did you keep fighting me?
30 Jan 19 UTC Glad this is over though. Every gunboat I'm in has been infuriating.
30 Jan 19 UTC Yeah, at the time it seemed like a good idea to prep you up with a build. Didn't work though.
31 Jan 19 UTC Pretty simple. 1909 there was the attack on London, and then the fleet in St P. That’s classic “let’s cut Germany out of it” move. I never for an instant thought I had a solo shot. I was worried about being cut out of the draw.

Then I was simply trying to prevent that by letting austria get big until you needed my help and I simply misjudged and by then we were too entangled to manage a grecful stalemate line. I was actually trying to get out of your hair for a little while and making a gas of it. I let Munich go because my then I was annoyed that it seemed Russia and France were still focusing on me that late. After all not disbanding Finland when I’d vacated Moscow instead disbanding a southern fleet was annoying. Also I was trying to help you keep Marseilles by cutting bugrgubdy and getting out of Paris and Vrest. It was dumb (bad) luck that I ended up with two useless builds and you two had disbands. I’m still not sure how that happened


Not my best effort for sure.
31 Jan 19 UTC Glad it’s over though. Marks my last diplomacy game I think.
31 Jan 19 UTC Well, not only bad luck. In 1911 Russia disbands Denmark, but you take it and Moscow anyhow. At that point I probably had it regardless, but this helped. Pru-Ber instead of Pru-Liv would've allowed you to build and fight me, but I suppose that's part hindsight.
31 Jan 19 UTC "That’s classic “let’s cut Germany out of it” move."

No, no I don't buy that for one second. I moved to London because you took *every* English SC *and* the Belgian neutral. You were being greedy. That you say *I* was trying to cut *you* out is insulting.

1907 - I'm trying to push on Austria's Italian centers and help you back into Munich. I need a build for another fleet in the Med, so I move into Belgium. I had assumed that you gaining Munich and Edi would be enough to keep you even. But I needed another fleet build in case Italy decided to kamikaze on me. I half expected Tunis to bolt for Spain that turn. Me in Belgium and Liverpool while you have London, Edi and Scandinavia is a nice, balanced split of everything. But instead not only do you take Belgium back, but you sacrifice Munich to do it! And take Liverpool instead of Edi. So from then on, I operated on the assumption that you wanted to take me out.

I gave you a chance though. Figured "Fine if he won't let me have two from our fight with England, maybe he'll settle for one" because I still needed more units for the fight against Austria. So I took London, and moved ***everything*** else away from you, so there should've been no doubt as to my intentions.

And then you built a god damn fleet. So from that moment on, I was suiciding on you.

So no, don't give me this bullshit that you were afraid of being eliminated. You forced Russia and I to try and eliminate you due to your own actions. And we were successful with it too.

I was just waiting the whole time for some kind of truce flag from you. I gave my own in spring 1912. You should've realized right then that we had to stop playing around. Instead you let Austria into Burgundy and Berlin and just threw the whole damn game. You were still...*still* trying to cut Russia out, stupidly. Even to your dying breath. You say you helped by cutting Burgundy, but you ignore the fact that instead of defending Kiel, you took Holland from me and LOST THE GAME.

So please, do us all a service and don't try to play this off as "I thought I was going to get eliminated" and just admit you were bad and greedy.

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