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Finished: 03 AM Fri 07 Sep 18 UTC
8/8
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Spring, 1909, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
09 Aug 18 UTC Spring, 1901: Hello and GLOBAL to all.
09 Aug 18 UTC Spring, 1901: *good luck
15 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1902: :-x
17 Aug 18 UTC Spring, 1903: This game makes no sense
19 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: ITY, why don't you vote Draw instead of Cancel
19 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: Fixed it.
30 Aug 18 UTC Spring, 1907: France, I don't know what you're aiming at.
Germany is the only potential solo winner here.
Just make sure he doesn't sneak stab you in London and Liverpool when he has 15-ish SCs.
31 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: This is very suspicious, what's happening. I wanted to avoid saying it, but there it is. No one with two brain cells would give away the game like this.
01 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: Can we ready up faster ? Feels like this is taking too long.
01 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: I'm not going for the win. Happy with a 4 way draw, once RUS has been eliminated. Having brought this into the forum however, I am happy to assist FRA and TUR in eliminating you and making it a 3 way draw.
01 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: FRA and TUR, PM me with your thoughts as to what you want to do.
01 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Well, then you have no guts. You would rather see "social justice" be done than actually win the game. What "social justice" am I talking about ? Me daring to speak my mind about clueless players. Btw, that's also a part of the diplomacy. I've been trying to convince France that going for me is wrong since you're miles in front of everyone else. But if you would rather eliminate me and go 3-draw, I can't do anything about that. You have a golden opportunity to win the game and you throw that away in favor of appearing self-righteous. No cold blood. No self-interest. Proud of yourself ? I bet you go to bed with a smile on your face.
Thank God it's only 10 points bet. Let's finish this game and end this crap.
01 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: And btw I have my suspicions about you and the France player...I can't think of any other reason why France would go for this unless you guys know each other or something.
01 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Been a player on this site since 2008 and playing since 1974. The is no self-righteousness, I worked with FRA fairly and each put trust in the other. I see no reason to betray that relationship now for some win in my stats and profile, who cares.

I haven't had to either work with or come in contact withTUR until this last turn. If he thinks you should survive, and FRA agrees, I'll go alone with that.

As for the unsubstantiated accusation that I'm cheating and so is FRA, really, fuck off! I'm not sorry that I approach and play this game differently than you do. And to suggest that I and FRA must be cheating because I am playing it differently than you suggests that you have a problem with social interaction and relationships with others.
01 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: I have messaged all of you, and my preference is for a four way draw. Italy has been my ally since I was down at 2 centres, and the stakes are not high enough to betray that. Also, I believe that Germany is a bit too close to comfort of 18 with a stab on France for me to dare do it differently even if I wanted to. Germany, if you take Mos and hold the rest I am ready for a draw. I can move on from this game.
02 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: I agree with Germany, while winning is the goal of this game if possible, it's not WHY I've been playing this game since high school. So how you interact with me has much more affect on whether or not I cooperate with you. If you have a problem with that Italy, you can kiss my ass because based on your messages you seem like a petulant child who is mad that they didn't get their way and I'm not gonna condone that.As for the cheating accusation- if you really think that Italy, then contact the mods and have them look into it otherwise just play the game and be okay with losing sometimes. A four way draw is fine with me at this stage and I wish everyone luck in their future games.
02 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: I say, play on as though no one will agree to a draw at the end of this year. Then let's all talk during the retreat build stage or hit draw and hope everyone else does as well . I will do so. That said, if we go into Spring then we'll see where we stand at the end of that season.
02 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: I mean, go into Spring because either ITY or TUR didn't agree, then that is what happened not because I secretary didn't do as I said.
02 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: You guys are right, I was being sullen. I apologize. I just ran out of options and frustration got the best of me. Sorry.
04 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Now that Russia is gone I will vote for a draw.
04 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Draw
05 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: +1
05 Sep 18 UTC France, we are waiting for you.
05 Sep 18 UTC France, we are waiting for you.
05 Sep 18 UTC I've not heard from him since 7:23 Sunday night.
05 Sep 18 UTC Thank you everyone. This was my first game at WebDip so there is some satisfaction in managing to recover from 2 sc to a four way draw. Thank you Italy especially for helping me out when I was down.
06 Sep 18 UTC Good game as an introduction
06 Sep 18 UTC Thanks all for the draw, especially Turkey for having my back. Sorry France if I insulted you, or Germany. It was rough diplomacy on my part. If it were a 3way draw I would have still said "GG" to all of you.

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Germany
Carpysmind (1423 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Turkey
jollycream (969 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
France
Bamawhite (647 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
England
BlueRurik (25 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Austria
LeSonle (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
JimmyYee (109 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
micahgibson12 (100 D)Russia (Spring, 1905) with 4 centres.
67038 (0 D X)England (Autumn, 1904) with 4 centres.
dijonandme (100 D)England (Spring, 1903) with 4 centres.
Lima (100 D)Russia (Spring, 1906) with 6 centres.
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