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Finished: 01 PM Thu 21 Jun 18 UTC
Don't turn around
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Come on Italy don't be greedy, we all wokred hard for the stalemate
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Hold on everyone, I'll just get rid of England quickly and then we'll draw.
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: In the meantime, I propose waiting and just defending borders.
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Italy eliminating me will get you barely any more coins, I urge you to vote draw and let this well worked draw happen.
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: I mean, there is no harm in getting 3 more coins, especially when we have all of the time in the world.
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: What the harm in giving me some coins that I worked for
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany is prepared to draw and he holds the most power in this game
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: You worked for nothing, you were holding the game hostage, threatening to take Portugal to weaken France and let Germany win.
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: I only did that when we were in a position where Germany couldn't advance and it was time to draw. May I point out that you were the only one who actively attacked Turkey and almost lost us the game
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: You know what would've lost us the game? Turkey going AFK. He missed a phase once and I didn't want to risk Germany being able to snatch one or two sc from Turkey, so I tried to take a few of Turkeys to have more units actively fighting on the battlefield. Now, the past doesn't matter. I'll finish you off and draw.
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Taking Turkey's land wouldn't have helped whatsoever, even if he was afk. The troops you would have gained wouldn't have helped as they would be too far away
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: There is no point in arguing with you, you'll try to come up with an excuse for something. Just deal with the fact that you will be gone out of the draw.
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Nothing else matters.
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Nothing else in the whole world matters more than 3 points on a website
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: GameMaster: Namejeff was banned: repeated meta. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Guess we'll find out who was Namejef...
15 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: The person that will have a bet of 0, because of the replaced player.
16 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Hah! HAHAHA! It was ENGLAND
17 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: This has been one of the most entertaining games I’ve ever played lol what a twist!
17 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: While we are at it, how about we get rid of France as well?
17 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: Make it a three-way draw.
17 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: If that's the way it's going to go Italy, I could just push all my forces south, letting Germany take my centres unopposed. When I'm gone, what makes you think they won't apply your logic and 'get rid of Italy' as well for a two-way draw?
17 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: To get a two way draw, both nations have to have 17 supply centres which would eventually lead to someone getting a solo. I think none of the people here would be willing to risk that.
17 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: Sorry, that's the way it just is.
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: France your going to get devoured :I Now you get to choose, who will get your supply centers, Germany, or Italy?
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: Definitely Germany - since it was Italy who floated the idea of drawing without me.
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: France thinks he is holding this game hostage.
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: I really don't. You're absolutely right that the three of you are going to eliminate me, there is no question about that. The game will end that way. I have limited options. Would you prefer I just ordered all my units to hold until I lose?
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: You might as well, because I already have total control of your territory.
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: "total control"...ahahahahaha

Please do enlighten us how your two fleets intend to capture Portugal, Marseilles, Brest and Paris. Last time I looked, Paris was a landlocked territory.
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: He's gonna move Venice-->Piedmont-->Marseilles, Spain-->Portugal Gulf of Lyon-->Spain
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: I understand that bare bones plan, but GERMANY can bounce Portugal/Spain and I can bounce Marseilles. Germany can also take Brest and Paris in the next year.

I think the statement "total control" is needlessly arrogant.
18 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: Agreed, but he can definetly take Marseilles next turn. Portugal, he likely loses
18 Jun 18 UTC I see that expert bounce at Marseilles. I don't think you realize that you can't support move into Marrsieles from your fleet at Gascony to take it next turn. I'm actually guaranteed Portugal and Marseilles if Germany doesn't move into Portugal for a bounce. Let's be honest now, you are in my grip. Yeah, sure, Paris is landlocked, but I have 5 units on the map that one of them I can send for aid?
18 Jun 18 UTC I didn't want to sound arrogant when I said: "I have you in my grip". I said that because it's the truth. I don't think you realize giving Germany those supply-centres actually fulfils parts of my plan for a three-way draw. Once you are off the map, I'll be sure to do that. Germany can't go for a solo now.
18 Jun 18 UTC Italy you should be worried about the Turkish solo right now
19 Jun 18 UTC Ik
19 Jun 18 UTC So rather than draw four ways for 18pts you'd rather risk everything for an extra 5?
19 Jun 18 UTC I'm not risking everything.
19 Jun 18 UTC @Turkey, I recommend you stop commencing and stop at St. Petersburg. Going further will give rise to many questions.
19 Jun 18 UTC Germany - perhaps Turkey and Italy intend to turn on you once I've gone. Italy's right, it is starting to look a little suspicious up in St Ps.

Are you happy holding while Italy takes my centres, only to allow them to reposition to attack you?
19 Jun 18 UTC The thing is, going further than a three-way in my position is beyond reasonless. Germany and Turkey are the two elephants in the room and I'm at a disadvantage on both fronts against Turkey and Germany. If you think there would be a person here that would go rogue, it would probably be Turkey.
19 Jun 18 UTC Two options atm. A three way draw between germany turkey and italy. OR a solo.
19 Jun 18 UTC If Germany didn't leave, everything would've been under control.
19 Jun 18 UTC Mhmmm
19 Jun 18 UTC Well if Germany has left, and has the draw order on, it's up to you to vote draw and end it, or risk everything getting shaken up.
20 Jun 18 UTC Turkey probably turned off his draw vote.
20 Jun 18 UTC Or not.
20 Jun 18 UTC How did you know he had a draw vote up, when he could've easily went for a solo?
20 Jun 18 UTC If Turkey waited for a few turns more we would've gotten more points.

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Turkey
DColodro (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
12 supply-centers, 10 units
Germany
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
10 supply-centers, 12 units
Italy
PhoenixFire (771 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
France
everybodylies (174 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
3 supply-centers, 4 units
England
Namejeff (10 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Austria
FlaviusAetius (991 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Russia
britamcc (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
Namejeff (10 D X)England (Autumn, 1908) with 1 centres.
sandian (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1903) with 1 centres.
Lowenzahmer (100 D)England (Autumn, 1902) with 3 centres.
zulu11 (100 D)Russia (Autumn, 1902) with 3 centres.
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