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Finished: 04 AM Thu 19 Apr 18 UTC
Private Second Treaty of Ithaca
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: @russia credit to whom credit is owed, you did bamboozle me. That’s why I said you deserved to win earlier.
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Haha, okay, I guess the cat is out of the bag now. The truth is that all I wanted to do was to crush England. At first, I was happy just holding Sweden and then slowly making progress in Turkey. But several things England did got on my nerves: (1) England proposed plans that supposedly benefitted allies, but it was clear that ultimately these plans kept the allies at a disadvantage compared to England and even vulnerable to a later backstabbing, (2) England repeatedly guilt-tripped allies even when allies were wholeheartedly helping (while reasonably furthering their own agendas), and (3) England retreated to Sweden which, compared to disbanding and rebuilding in the English Isles, accelerated his schedule by one turn but set back Russia's schedule by maybe four. In the turn where England retreated to Sweden, I expressed that it would worsen relations (in fact, I was very angry), but because England kept pressing (demanding that Russia owed England for "keeping Germany off [Russia's] back") and because I had no way of preventing that retreat, I went with it cordially, and continued to "agree" to England's schemes. I did not truly support any of them, while repeatedly apologizing or acting like I didn't know what I was doing when England accused me of not helping. Some point shortly after, I had England by the throat: England had no choice but to either be allied with me (continue to believe my 敷衍) or try to forge an alliance with France; he chose France because at this point I had already been doing everything I could to frustrate him. I had already promised France all of the centers on the English Isles, and, by the way, I plan to follow through with that plan. After France gains England's centers and I gain Kiel, we will be at the same number of centers. I don't mind voting to draw the game at that point, if everyone else also wants to draw. Everyone here can be a witness to this claim.
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: We agree to disagree, but I shall let my action speak.
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: By the way, I apologize to Germany for taking Denmark. There was a miscommunication with France; France's message last night sounded as if I shouldn't be letting Germany have the centers; I read it at 3 AM last night and didn't get a follow-up from France. I suppose it was a matter of time, anyway, but I apologize for taking your centers despite having said that I wouldn't.
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: ^that was planed before that Russian paragraph
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: A mutual desire for an alliance was formed with Russia the first or second turn of the game. The specifics about partitioning the SC's were outlined after England's Retreat to Sweden.

My indecisiveness and hesitancy about the ceasefire proposal may have cost me the game, but that was my personal failures. Can completely understand why England was so angry about that.
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: just a question: who are the "allies" Russia referred to?
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Not so sure, but Russia used it to refer to just "Russia"
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: It’s objective fact that you continue to exist in this game because I stopped Germany from attacking you, Russia :) you’re welcome
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Again, why are all of you so insistent on believing you made no mistakes? I freely acknowledge my mistakes and the good moves you guys made, as well as the bad moves. Not sure why you guys are so touchy about admitting even a single error, haha
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: You did well Russia, as I have said. The fact that you feel the need to insist not only that you did well but also that you were never irrational is pretty juvenile... it’s the same hindsight bias / sunk cost fallacy that seems to be pervasive in this game.
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: You were a bad ally, and that’s because you had an ulterior motive, as France said. That’s perfectly fine, it’s letting you win a solo victory.

I’m not even sure why you’re arguing about this; just like France, to just need to own up to what you did (and even be proud of it). Don’t try and pass the buck to me—accepting guilt and responsibility is what makes us human and what keeps us grounded.
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Pls ready your order dude. Autumn 1903 and 1904 were big mistakes for me.
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Damn, the game is about backstabbing people, dude
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: If you act like you have to rationalize it, you’re implying that it is not just a game
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: ... which is against the spirit of the game.

Seriously, stop sullying your victory by trying to pass the buck onto others
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: You have literally one center to build in! Lol, please ready your order already!
12 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: calm down bro
12 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1907: is only game, why you have to be mad?
12 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1907: You see, comrade...

https://i.redd.it/5fgjfej17hp01.png
12 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1907: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTkHT6UHqkI
13 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1907: https://www.reddit.com/r/youseecomrade
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: I would not mind voting for a draw at this point.
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: lets do it.
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: seems like most people are checked out at this point.
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: :P
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: Draw votes are public and require unanimity, so if you really want one you should just vote. Using them as a negotiating tactic otherwise only works if they’re hidden.
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: Woah, England, I just wanted to state it first.
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: Yeah I don't think Russia needs this to negotiate.
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: Thanks for the insight France
16 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: You guys gotta chill, it’s endgame
16 Apr 18 UTC In particular, France, you should be the most chill because Russia has basically extended a crazy generous bargain
16 Apr 18 UTC but maybe that bargain was discussed extensively in private chat
16 Apr 18 UTC Then you would behoove you to be all the more calm in public chat :)
16 Apr 18 UTC it would*
16 Apr 18 UTC or maybe because of my extensive interaction with Russia I was able to understand his intention a lot better than you do
16 Apr 18 UTC yeah I was quite content
16 Apr 18 UTC sorry if i gave off anything other than that
16 Apr 18 UTC then act like it! lol
16 Apr 18 UTC waiting for your vote
16 Apr 18 UTC if anyone has a right to be not chill, it’s Germany, who got out at the last moment
16 Apr 18 UTC RIP Germany
16 Apr 18 UTC lmao Turkey survived despite leaving
16 Apr 18 UTC victory to the anarchist
16 Apr 18 UTC I’ll vote draw if austria votes draw
16 Apr 18 UTC RIP Germany
16 Apr 18 UTC Oh dang it, I clicked refresh automatically again.
16 Apr 18 UTC they should fix that
17 Apr 18 UTC GG
17 Apr 18 UTC Gg!

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Russia
alqz (144 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 19 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
France
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Austria
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
England
jyc (89 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 1 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 1 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Turkey
Resigned. Bet: 5 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Germany
JXY (95 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
all my teams suck (100 D)Turkey (Spring, 1905) with 3 centres.
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