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Finished: 03 PM Wed 17 Jan 18 UTC
Normal diplomacy-9
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Bark (337 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 1903: I agree. I tried to avoid this. I also try to avoid provocative global messages, but that's just a personal strategy.
28 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 1903: No Turkey and no effective England have not helped this game.
28 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 1903: It does affect balancing
29 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 1903: Does the idea of going to Times Square for New Years appeal to anyone here? Stand around the cold NYC streets for 12 hours or so, no bathroom, no moving, probably a huge terrorist target on your back, just to do a countdown, watch a ball drop, and kiss your sweetie.

This doesn't sound like fun to me. Almost everything else sounds more fun to me than this.
30 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 1903: I completely agree. The only thing almost as bad is watching CNN on New Year's eave with Anderson Cooper and some weird guy.
31 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 1904: Is ABC still branding their show as "Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve with Ryan Seacrest?" Go bless Dick Clark, but I think the name could be dropped now.

BTW, Happy New Year everyone! Party responsibly.
31 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 1904: I meant "God bless." I don't think any of you here are clergy, no offense.
01 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: I thought you commanding us to "Go bless Dick Clark, the great and powerful!" Not really, lol.
01 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: Happy new year. Not sure if it's new year in your time zones yet, but let it be happy anyway.
03 Jan 18 UTC Spring, 1905: It took France four units, and a lot of time and missed opportunities to beat just one British. I think this is good vengeance for the betrayal.
03 Jan 18 UTC Spring, 1905: So this was my first Diplomacy game. And it feels like poker. It looks like bluffing and "diplomacy" only works for new unsuspecting players, also known as fish in poker, and the rest just play it like chess.
03 Jan 18 UTC Spring, 1905: I think chess for 7 is a good description.
03 Jan 18 UTC Spring, 1905: And England, your diplomacy in our 1 on 1 chat was excellent, btw.
04 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: Of course, I shouldn't judge the game after such short period of time.
04 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: You would be doing yourself a disservice if you did.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: Bye the Old World! I'm on my way to America!
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: And it is official: Russia is attacking Austria. Absolutely no one is surprised.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: Of course I knew he was attacking me... that was kind of the deal.

I had no alternative anyway, might as well be a meatshield.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: For the record, I did buy him dinner first.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: He the dessert was Austria?
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: In all seriousness, this really does seem like a game that's better to play in person. Anyone here play this game in person? What's it like, socially? Is it good-natured ribbing, or do people genuinely get angry?
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: I like this game way better face-to-face.
I used to play online all the time, but after playing face-to-face quite a bit, coming to online play is kind of a letdown (mostly because of NMRs)
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: When playing face-to-face, how many shenanigans actually occur, like trying to intercept and alter someone else's orders? I've read that it's acceptable, but that doesn't seem very sporting.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: Altering somebody else's orders without them knowing it is against the rules for my understanding and I have never seen that happen.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: Yeah, Austria is correct. You'd never see moves altered like that. Besides, there's enough duplicity and malice in the game as it is without having to resort to move altering.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: How does the evolution of the game go after a few beers though?
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: The first one to be drunk immediately loses :P
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: I don't think you can get through an in-person game without a lot of alcohol, to help get over being stabbed by friends. I'd probably keep sharp objects stowed, though.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: I can picture the angry drunk fights and the weepy drunk apologies.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: We used to get drunk and play. I was the one trying to keep others actually playing while they argued good naturedly. There was the occasional rage over being stabbed. The main difference in person is that it's more obvious who is with who. 2 or 3 might confer in a separate room. It can get very complicated, though. Note passing was always allowed.
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: That's a good point, one advantage of online is that it's easy to completely hide who talks to who and how frequently
05 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: One funny and mean thing is to get a third guy in a "conference", and then stab him through the use of notes. I would never do such a thing, though, lol.
07 Jan 18 UTC Spring, 1906: Anyone else think Matt Ryan's helmet is one size too big?
07 Jan 18 UTC Spring, 1906: Land sakes! Are those Austrian arrows heading towards Russian targets? And is there a purple area occupied by a red unit? Will wonders never cease?
07 Jan 18 UTC Spring, 1906: And Italy gives it all away :D hahahahaha... classic
07 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Belgian Waffles sound delicious! Wouldn't you agree, France?
07 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Not as good as Tunisian Waffles
07 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Both are good.
08 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: You're being a dick, Russia.
08 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Wait, you think Russia is being the dick in this scenario? Or is that sarcasm?
08 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Well, not that big of one I guess. Just a small one.
08 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: Your mother doesn't complain.
08 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: lol
08 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: And the game somehow reaches a new low
08 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: yeah, not too big on the semi-personal insults...
It's no secret that Italy annoyed me in this game. He probably had his reasons and I had mine.

But it in no way makes me want to insult his mother... or his penis
09 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: I apologize for my comment.
09 Jan 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: all is forgiven. I apologize, too.
16 Jan 18 UTC This could be it.
16 Jan 18 UTC Congratulations, Russia.
16 Jan 18 UTC Good game all. It was difficult with Turkey never showing up. Let's have a drink on his tab.

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Russia
Bark (337 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
Italy
Halloway (302 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Germany
fourofswords (514 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
3 supply-centers, 4 units
Austria
Lukan (387 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
France
TaoQiBao (100 D)
Resigned. Bet: 10 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Turkey
Swany (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
England
asqtv (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
TaoQiBao (100 D)France (Autumn, 1908) with 8 centres.
asassynation (0 D X)Turkey (Autumn, 1902) with 2 centres.
resplendeo (100 D)England (Autumn, 1902) with 3 centres.
Swany (100 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1903) with 1 centres.
magduczka (100 D)England (Autumn, 1903) with 2 centres.
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