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Finished: 08 PM Tue 12 Dec 17 UTC
The orders speak for themselves II
1 day /phase
Pot: 700 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Qacper (1122 D)
11 Dec 17 UTC Thanks for game guys.
You got just bit to greedy England.
Thanks germany for helping out. Revenge is really strong motivation after all :)
11 Dec 17 UTC Austria, I wanted to stop you, but every time I tried to redeploy to stop you, England hit me from behind. If I wasn’t going to be permitted to stop you, I figured I would just focus on surviving.
11 Dec 17 UTC England gave you the solo.
11 Dec 17 UTC And WTF France?
11 Dec 17 UTC You are fully right. You did really good job, but was constantly stabbed.
I will not lie it was a pleasure to see it each and every time. And once I've seen Pru-Bal I knew that unless there will be civil disorder in Germany I will make it happen.
11 Dec 17 UTC Nicely done for sure. I wish I'd done a better job defending to be sure
11 Dec 17 UTC Dear Germany.

I have just reviewed the entire game. You have not done a single move against Austria. I have supported you to Munich and to Berlin, but that was not enough to convince you. I see no reason why anyone could prefer a defeat instead a draw, but that was your choice. Sure, if I were Austria, I would love and praise your choices.

Anyway, I liked this game very much.
Ready for another turn if you would agree.
Good game.
11 Dec 17 UTC Austria, you have played splendid. Italy, better luck next time. I like to see a lepanto going on, but Austria has done a really good job.
11 Dec 17 UTC Nice game Austria.
11 Dec 17 UTC England - You are delusional. You never supported me into Munich and Berlin. You stabbed me in 1903, which is fair enough, and snapped off Sweden and Denmark. When I pulled my units out of France to send them east and stop Austria, you continued to go after Kiel and Berlin, the SC you claim to have supported me into, and also France. It should have been obvious that your only chance to stop Austria was to back off Germany and France, but, as Austria stated, you got greedy. Nice work.
11 Dec 17 UTC The moves to get a garanteed draw this last season were obvious, but you did refuse this option. I see no problem at all, but it was not my choice.
11 Dec 17 UTC There is no guaranteed draw. Once Munich gets to Ruhr, Berlin falls. There is no way to prevent this, especially with France attacking Belgium.
11 Dec 17 UTC Burgundy to Munich.
Prússia to Berlim.
Belgium to Ruhr.
Garanteed (and obvious) draw.
11 Dec 17 UTC Aliás Hollandaise to Ruhr ....
11 Dec 17 UTC No. Sorry. That was the previous season moves.
12 Dec 17 UTC That was when you were attacking.
12 Dec 17 UTC Trying to start a defense when a player has 17 centers is a fool’s errand. You need to start playing defense at 12 centers.
12 Dec 17 UTC I don't believe that. I believe we should go for the victory untill the defeat turns to be most probable than the victory, given not only SCs, but positions and backward commitments as well.
12 Dec 17 UTC We had a obvious draw option in the last season given by PRU-BER, supported by BAL, KIE and complemented by HOL-RUH, PAR-BUR.

My evaluation about the Austria chances turned to be wrong, not about the number of SCs he had, but about the motivations of Germany, who has choosen to lose instead of to draw. Once again, I don't see this option wrong, as people behave differently, but it was not my option, it was yours.
12 Dec 17 UTC I have to say in with Germany on this one. Gunboat takes long to create coordination and the moves up north were a mess. For example, if you intention was to give berlin to Germany, then you should have supported him there in 1911 and given a support hold after that. You didn't have a lot of time to reassure Germany you weren't going to eliminate him, and when it didn't happen, Austria wins. I can't fault Germany for not trusting that you'd see the light.
12 Dec 17 UTC That's said, that was one of the best austrias I've seen in a while so it was always going to be tough.
12 Dec 17 UTC When Germany destroied his armies in Munich and in Paris instead of his fleet in Prussia Austria were 14 SC. I could have supported him to hold in Munich.
That period Germany chosen to fight me and France, instead of Austria.
12 Dec 17 UTC At that point it was obvious that Austria was going to win because of your inability to see the big picture. So I was just trying to survive.
13 Dec 17 UTC Your only chance of surviving were fighting Austria ...
13 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 1909.
Germany destroied armies in Paris and Munich, instead of his fleet in Prussia.
Untill before these orders, I could EASILY support him to hold in Munich, stop Austria in Northern Europe and in the Mediterranean Sea as well.
13 Dec 17 UTC 1910, Spring.
My orders were all set to show Germany I was ready for cooperation and moving to stop Austria. See by yourselves:

The army at Marseilles move to Piedmont. (fail)
The fleet at Mid-Atlantic Ocean move to Western Mediterranean.
The army at St. Petersburg move to Moscow. (fail)
********The fleet at Holland move to North Sea.
The fleet at Spain (South Coast) move to Gulf of Lyons. (fail)
********The fleet at Berlin move to Baltic Sea. (fail)
The fleet at Gulf of Lyons move to Tyrrhenian Sea. (fail)
********The fleet at North Africa support move to Tunis from Tyrrhenian Sea. (fail)
********The army at Kiel support move to Munich from Burgundy. (fail)

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Qacper (1122 D)
Won. Bet: 100 D, won: 700 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
curupira (3491 D)
Survived. Bet: 100 D
11 supply-centers, 13 units
Kubrick (685 D)
Survived. Bet: 100 D
4 supply-centers, 3 units
tomtom2357 (0 D X)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Ogion (4059 D)
Defeated. Bet: 100 D
erzetael (1239 D)
Defeated. Bet: 100 D
Defeated. Bet: 100 D
Civil Disorders
Tharuk (904 D)France (Autumn, 1906) with 5 centres.
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