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Finished: 10 AM Thu 19 Oct 17 UTC
America first!
1 day /phase
Pot: 100 D - Spring, 2010, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Unranked, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: Yeah
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: how about open press world dip?
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: you could try, but it's not really the same as this.
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: Open Press World: sign up if you'd like: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=207932
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: 25 is quite a lot
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: big stakes, big map...
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: yeah, I don't have 25
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: I will make one cheaper, with modern II
09 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: Here it is
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=207938
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: NY: My unit in Vermont will support any move you like, just tell me what order to write.
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: BC: Nevada is supporting Oregon to San Fran.
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: BC: You can have as much of California as you cane take, suggest you come down the coasts with both fleets and armies.
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: NY: Can you support Kentucky to Tenn please?
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: NY: or instead we can all support it to hold against a joint Cuba/Mexico attack?
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: I'll move south to San Fran, don't mind the army in Calgary since the last guy CD'd and his armies and fleets happened to be on his home SCs.
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: I saw that, don't worry.
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: NYC moving to Mass. Please give support
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: I'll give support to Tenn
10 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2008: order written.
11 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: BC: we can take LA, 100% like this:

West Coast - Gulf of SC, cut
Arizona - San Diego, cut
San Fran - LA supported by Nevada.

It gives you LA, leaves San Fran with me temporarily, but keep moving down the coast and you can have San Fran when you finally get there.
11 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: NY: Let's just support Tenn to hold.
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: Yeah, I already thought of walking into LA to cut support, I can get SF next autumn. Only concern for now is holding it, so you might have to support hold LA this year.
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: We got flanked on the far right by Cuba at sea, bad news over there...

But what are Vancouver and Washington doing? We need all available units in battle...
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: I meant to move the army in Washington south to Oregon, but I think the commands goofed it up and moved it to Vancouver instead...
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: BC: Can you send a new fleet north around the top?
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: BC: Use both fleets to HOLD the naval flank on the left, do not let him flank us...
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: I'm building a fleet in Anchorage, but I don't think you'll be able to hold onto Ungava, I can try to compensate by supporting you into San Diego.
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: Nevada will support LA permanently, use Gulf of Alaska to support West coast and the far left is a stalemate.
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: I will temporarily lose Ungava, but I will get it back, don't worry.
12 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2008: BC: We do not need your two armies on the left flank at all. Use at least one of them to go get Ungava back. Gulf of Alaska supports West Coast, Nevada supports LA, Utah supports Arizona, Colorado supports New Mexico, Missouri supports Oklahoma. It's all a stalemate, the only war that matters at this point is the far right naval war.

Strongly suggest you build a fleet, send it north, along with one of your armies, and help get Ungava back and shore up NY's naval defenses.
12 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2009: sorry about my defence.
12 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2009: it's okay, we'll recover.
12 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2009: Way ahead of you, I was planning on building a fleet in Anchorage because I knew the backdoor would be a bit open, though it might take a while to get to the east since Manitoba is in the way.
12 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2009: there's a land bridge from Nunawut to Ungava.
12 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2009: Calgary - NW Terr - Nunawut..
12 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2009: Vir --> Tenn
12 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2009: Yeah, I know, it's just a bit awkward is all.
14 Oct 17 UTC Spring, 2009: ok guys, put your 20 coins on the line is this one, an EPIC game...

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=208182
14 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: NY: Where do you need from me with Beauce?
14 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: BC: Surprised he did not move to sea of Lab, I no longer need to protect Ungava, but we can BLOCK him from entering Sea of Lab, if I move there, and you move to Greenland to cut any support the lone NY unit tries to give. [also if he ever moves it, you get it.] No need to keep your army coming north. Take San Fran, I will use Nevada to support LA again. After you are in San Fran, you can use that to support LA, and I will withdraw Nevada. Perhaps you could send your Calgary army to take its place? I'll shift Nevada around over to help near Dallas.

Also, there is no way through on the left, but if you build yet another Fleet, and send it north, I am sure we can get you Greenland. It may take a fair bit of time, but we'll get it.

Very important that I keep him out of Sea of Lab, so please CUT Greenland each and every turn, if he ever moves it, you get it. Your second fleet, can go Beaufort Sea, Nanavut, Baffin... Finally take Greenland... And then yet another north fleet and eventually we might be able to swing the right flank, if we haven't voted draw by then...
14 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: Go to Verm
14 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: ok
14 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: done
15 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: In the event Mexico CD’s could we all eliminate home and draw out 4 ways?
15 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: looks like multiple NMRs right now, what's up?
15 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: it's an unranked game, we can draw any time, as far a I am concerned.
15 Oct 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: True. I have had my draw up for some time. Whenever y'all feel like it. I am satisfied.
17 Oct 17 UTC Well, look like that's a draw, gg everyone
17 Oct 17 UTC join this one.... much better...

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=208182
18 Oct 17 UTC guys, we need five more people for this huge EPIC game of OPEN PRESS World Dip, will be hilarious fun!

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Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Heartland
Tugster (13048 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Cuba
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
Mexico
CarsonCole (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
British-Columbia
Anneal (215 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
New-York
moodltha00 (103 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Florida
Gojeli Mezah (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Quebec
Archenbauer (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
California
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Peru
Maltex (152 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Texas
Farkastan (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
Grand Admiral (100 D)Heartland (Autumn, 1999) with 4 centres.
Naslazh (105 D)Texas (Autumn, 1999) with 3 centres.
aboligan (100 D)Peru (Spring, 2003) with 2 centres.
finndawg17@gmail.com (100 D)Texas (Spring, 2001) with 6 centres.
Abdulaziz14 (0 D X)British-Columbia (Autumn, 2002) with 3 centres.
jcu2121 (100 D)California (Autumn, 2005) with 4 centres.
BrsShaddow (100 D)Florida (Spring, 2006) with 4 centres.
wyldwarrior (100 D)Texas (Autumn, 2002) with 3 centres.
Flyingdick (100 D)British-Columbia (Autumn, 2007) with 5 centres.
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