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Finished: 03 AM Thu 25 May 17 UTC
Private  6 
1 day /phase
Pot: 350 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by 2ndWhiteLine (3375 D (B))
23 May 17 UTC Good game, all. Congrats to 2ndWhiteLine.

I'll take some responsibility, in hindsight, for not responding to the French threat soon enough. That said, the German NMR in 1908, and then the destructive retreat into what should have been friendly territory, is what sealed the deal.
23 May 17 UTC My NMR meant jack shit You ramming into Italy's ass for years after you should have stopped lost the game.
23 May 17 UTC Respectfully disagree. Pretty sure France ended up with more German centers than Italian ones.
23 May 17 UTC :)
23 May 17 UTC I hoped for years that Turkey would support me in Tunis. When he finally did, it was too late. Well, at least I'm alive at the end.
23 May 17 UTC Agree with german and italy. Turkey did the shit, but this is the game. GG at all.
23 May 17 UTC Already admitted I should have moved to stop France sooner. That said, I had my own path to a solo until Germany collapsed, so I was a bit blinded by that.

Genuinely not trying to start shit, just don't think I'm solely at fault, especially considering multiple nations literally gave France supply centers without a fight.
23 May 17 UTC S1910, Turkey couldn't have supported Italy in BOTH TYS and Tun. It was an either-or proposition. He also couldn't have gotten more fleets into position because he wasn't in Naples or Rome. So you're basically saying that he had to kill Italy to save Italy, but even then there were no guarantees.
24 May 17 UTC France, the writing was on the wall at the end of 1908, when you built a fleet in Brest. In the spring of 1909, instead of convoying an army to Apulia, Turkey could have moved one fleet to Naples and the other to Ionian. I'm not saying Turkey made a big mistake because as he said, he had his own solo schedule. But France, don't say it was impossible because it wasn't.
24 May 17 UTC If that happens, I take Rome and cut his support in Naples. Wouldn't have made a difference.

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France
2ndWhiteLine (3375 D (B))
Won. Bet: 50 D, won: 350 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
Turkey
thatwasawkward (4384 D (B))
Survived. Bet: 50 D
14 supply-centers, 13 units
Russia
josemurc (28888 D)
Survived. Bet: 50 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Italy
Zmaj (215 D (B))
Survived. Bet: 50 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Germany
Valis2501 (2781 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 50 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
England
rdrivera2005 (3319 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Austria
xorxes (30127 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
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