Finished: 10 PM Tue 11 Apr 17 UTC
Panda Saeed
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1923, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
24 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 1903: GameMaster: ThePastaMan was banned: meta/no reply. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
09 Mar 17 UTC Spring, 1907: Folks, this is a great game. let's make it stay great and hit our draw buttons. We all deserve points. Don't be a point hog. Your diplomatic friend, Fourofswords.
09 Mar 17 UTC Spring, 1907: Oops, except Russia. Put Russia out of his misery, lol.
14 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: One more centre and Turkey wins... England, I really don'tknow what you're doing.
14 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Italy is right. Your throwing yourself under the bus just to get back at me.
14 Mar 17 UTC Spring, 1909: I guess I'm the one under the bus now
14 Mar 17 UTC Spring, 1909: We can draw with Turkey

Turkey needs one more supply centre. The units France has in Italy are sufficient to keep that from being rome, since France can support hold rome from tuscany and can attack both Naples and Venice to cut any support orders they might give. Of course, France will have to disband some of these units if you continue to attack him, which would result in Turkey winning

If he can't get Rome, Turkey will be looking for an 18th supply centre in the north. St Petersburg and Kiel are the closest to him, and he can get St Petersburg simply by moving warsaw to Livonia and then supporting himself into St P next turn. You can stop this, though, by convoying into Norway with Edinburgh so as to support hold St P in the fall. As for Kiel, using heligoland to support hold it will be enough to keep turkey out.


We can make this into a draw! Cooperate with us, England, and you'll be able to share in the spoils instead of giving them all to Turkey
19 Mar 17 UTC Spring, 1910: New England here, and on board to force the draw
19 Mar 17 UTC Spring, 1910: RIP st.P though
19 Mar 17 UTC Spring, 1910: Ill get it back
21 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: Might as well draw now Turkey, this last turn was your last chance at a solo and you didnt get it
23 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1911: It's over, Turkey
24 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1911: The game has been stalemated. Please draw Turkey
24 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1911: I think you can make a breakthrough, you can win this! It will be fun, good luck for that:)
24 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1911: The only other outcome right now would be you losing Turkey, You wont be gaining any more ground, so why not draw? You've earned at least that
24 Mar 17 UTC Spring, 1912: Please, try to defeat me, it is fun!
27 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: This game doesnt appear to be going anywhere. Time to vote draw Turkey
28 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: Kill Italy and I draw.
28 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: I don't see that happening. You cant touch him and France and I are unwilling. Even if we were it would compromise our line against you to do so. Either draw or let this game continue in futility
28 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: Ok, lets continue this
28 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: Why? Nothings going to change
28 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: Ok, lets continue this
29 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1914: It is funny:)
29 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1914: I dont understand why its funny, seems like a large waste of time
29 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1914: Want to make it fun? put in nothing but Hold orders for a couple turns :)
29 Mar 17 UTC Autumn, 1914: It is funny as I get Munich. One more mistake and I win.
03 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1918: Turkey, can you please vote draw. It strongly appears that this game is going nowhere. If we all continue to stalemate, I will contact a mod to intervene.

Prolonging a game indefinitely with the hope some one NRMs or whatever it is you are doing is frowned upon.

It is my understanding that a mod will inquire to whether you have a legit strategy to breaking the stalemate, and if not, the game will be forced to a draw
04 Apr 17 UTC Autumn, 1918: I do not think that it is a stalemate, as I made progress (Munich)
04 Apr 17 UTC Autumn, 1918: And where are you going to make any more? You need to to win
04 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1919: Draw turkey
05 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1919: Kill Italy
05 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1920: A mod has been contacted about this game
06 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1921: Turkey, do you see now that this is a complete stalemate?
06 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1921: no, this is not a complete stalemate
06 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1921: How??
07 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1921: The others kill you as I requested:)
07 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1921: You do not deserve any score in this game: u just jumped in without any score investment and u have only 1 sc.
07 Apr 17 UTC Spring, 1921: I've been instrumental in helping France plan his defence and in setting up this stalemate line
England also joined for no points and I don't see to complaining about that
07 Apr 17 UTC Autumn, 1921: There has been no change in SCs along the stalemate line for years. France Italy and I are solid in our alliance and willingness to hold the line. Nothing will change, a four way draw is the only outcome
08 Apr 17 UTC Autumn, 1921: In this case what is the problem?:) why do You write to me?
09 Apr 17 UTC Autumn, 1922: The site rules say

"We will only force games to draw if they have been at a stalemate for at least two years with no SC's changing hands and no possible sign of a breakthrough."
09 Apr 17 UTC Autumn, 1922: We've been in exactly the same position for longer than two years
09 Apr 17 UTC Autumn, 1922: Turkey, the mods tell me you have been contacted. Can I ask you why you haven't drawn yet?
10 Apr 17 UTC stupid question...
becasue I don't have to
10 Apr 17 UTC Moderator: (peterwiggin): I gave Turkey until the end of 1922 to try and break the line. At this point, I'm going to force-draw this game.
10 Apr 17 UTC Thank you Peterwiggin
10 Apr 17 UTC Good game everyone
10 Apr 17 UTC Thanks, peterwiggin. Thanks everyone for a good game.
10 Apr 17 UTC Good game, thanks for not eliminating me!

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Turkey
udvarid (221 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 9 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
England
MarkDalton (763 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 9 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
France
fourofswords (498 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
Qualtagh (192 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 9 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Austria
jcl04 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Russia
Mud (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Germany
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
Venusaur (180 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1901) with 4 centres.
Moka221 (0 D X)Italy (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
ThePastaMan (10 D X)Austria (Autumn, 1903) with 3 centres.
Wperez2016 (0 D X)Russia (Autumn, 1906) with 1 centres.
sillabeast (0 D X)England (Spring, 1910) with 8 centres.
gallixie (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1904) with 1 centres.
jcl04 (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1906) with 0 centres.
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