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Finished: 11 PM Tue 17 Jan 17 UTC
Bad Mad Puppies
1 day /phase
Pot: 200 D - Autumn, 2002, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: turkey, nows your chance to take serbia, ill hit adr - he'll likely press ionian anyway, ill cover it
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: we can force italy to use his pretty new ship in ven to support if you use albany to support that move as well turkey. bet he's itching to move it into apu

then again, ive been told my tactical understand is quite low..
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: fmpov, italy and spain together can only apply 4 units of pressure at any given time to ionian, and we have more than enough to cover that
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: i dont need the support from alb, use it for other purposes
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: What support should i provide to you with the greek fleet?, Egypt.
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: Britain, we are friends, right?. I need to know.
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: Italy, you hit Ruhr and I take Alsace (with Switz support, right?). Does that work for you? Also, what to do about the Med?
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: Greece is support Aeg to Ion. I am counting on Ionian moving to Adriatic. I may as well support that move; let's keep Italy guessing. Let me know if have to change something. Serbia will go down now.
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: Britain, if you want to be in a draw, why are you not clicking draw? You think you might solo?
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: When you are as close to being in the green points wise as I am, you kind of feel the need to hold off the draw for a bit
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: So if Poland gave you Sweden, would you click Draw?
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: Italy do you want to go for Podolia or me? I'm close to hitting a wall with Turkey at this point unless you make gains down south
11 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2001: Probably yes
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Just to clear things up a bit, Poland you have moved out of Sweden the turn right after Spain suggested that you give Sweden to me. Please tell me if I'm looking at this wrong but does that mean you are letting me have Sweden? I will only move in there if you say it's ok, if you don't want me to then I'll stay where I am
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: It would be better for all of us to draw. He game is heading to be very long. And not much is going to change the coming years anyway.
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: I will pull back Urals to Volga to reach a holding line. If Britain and take Sweden and draw, that would be good. I will just hold my units this turn.
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: I am support holding Ionian Sea with Greece.
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Nope at the moment I am not giving you Sweden, sorry. But will help you in the north to get another centre in St. Petes or Gorky.

Realistically Turkey and I are now at a standstill and Italy you are not gaining ground on Turkey in any way. I would be happy with the draw Turkey.
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: I am glad to hear that Poland. I am willing to give up petersburg to Britain to make things better.
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: I appreciate that, once I have that I will happily vote draw
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: then how about convoying Picardy away from me, Britain. As you can see (and despite my proposal to cut you out), I am not the one standing in the way of your achieving a draw.
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Ok, due to recent updates on events I will withdraw from Picardy, I would also appreciate if you were to move away from belgium
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Britain, you will not be disappointed.
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: we can draw sooner if poland (who's skin in this game is limited) gave up ham for britians net positive. moving to st. p is going to take a couple turns.. just my thoughts
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Limited skin in the game, but no less a diplomacy player than yourself :)

Britain you move to Sweden and Turkey lets me move into St. Petes and I am all draw next turn. Agreed?

At the same time Italy still needs convincing
12 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Yeah that's fine by me
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: This game could be a long one; I'll take a more serious look at a draw vote soon.

Spain - keep pressing forward in the med.
I'll keep supporting random (ish) moves of your advance, thus, keeping them guessing.
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: italy isn't going to draw until he's completely shut down in the med so let's oblige him - bring eastern black down to reinforce if you can
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: England not going to give Sweden yet, want confirmation from Turkey. Sorry, it will likely be next turn
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: your only survival option is a draw at this point anyway italy, your wasting our time
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: spain i have some good respect for you drawing that ship from tun
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: England, Sweden is all yours. Won't contest it anymore

Thanks Turkey, draw vote is cast. No more hostilities from me
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Egypt, if you want, feel free to take Izmir and Adana so you can havemore points. We are drawing this game.
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Thanks Turkey, I have a few points to spare so it's nbd.
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: I'd feel better if Egypt took those centers.
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: Take the centers.
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: What difference does it make? I don't want to drag things out.
13 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: The fact that turkey is willing to offer them shows he does not intend to go for the solo
14 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2001: My draw vote is in.
14 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2002: Britain take Sweden and then you will get our draw votes. I promised him that SC
15 Jan 17 UTC Britain Sweden is open this turn. Not sure why I ordered my fleet there last turn, mistake on my part. Ordering it to Denmark instead, sorry
15 Jan 17 UTC Ok I'll move in now
16 Jan 17 UTC Draw vote in
16 Jan 17 UTC So, if poland doesnt click draw we all beat on him to submission, right?
(else Egypt/turkey, how bout helping me thin out draw and take out italy?)
16 Jan 17 UTC i think he will. he honored his word to britain

good game all. turkey, i appreciate your alliance and spain/italy, the shit talking (: poland thanks for subbing
16 Jan 17 UTC Haha, yup getting that army destroyed was just the start to my dominance!!

Good game all
16 Jan 17 UTC Ha, now that I know Macch was Italy, I'm kinda glad I took a late center from him!
Turkey, you probably should have sought to thin out the draw more. In my book, 6 people is just to damn many...
16 Jan 17 UTC Good game everyone
16 Jan 17 UTC GG
16 Jan 17 UTC Spain, i agree, less players more points. But you forced me to stop it right there. When i said its time to draw i was no bluffing. Spain's cooperation was needed, and you were not cooperating, so it was time to stop. Also i didnt understand why Italy start being aggressive, i was respecting his lands, and yet he decided to fight. Being honest, i would favor more an alliance with Italy than with Egypt because of the geographic position. But out of the blue Italy start suspecting me without reason.

Also i thank Egypt, i am glad we could have a truthful alliance. It turn out right, and we trust each other. Sorry if i was not commited to support you more by attacking Italy at the beginning, but the reason for that was that i didnt want any of them to become very stronger till i was sure who was more truthful. Since Egypt was more trustful, i was willing to give him centers to fully make him bigger and cooperate with him.

My big advance was mostly luck and having my back secured. But i was able to outmaneuver Russia on tactics forecasting him moving out of Gorky. Best battle.

If the game had progresed 'normaly', which means spain and britain would push east, i would had gain more centers, and probably a draw between four countries, or my solo, depending where italy and poland decided to defend more, and if britain spain n egypt form a coalition, so most likely it would had been a draw.

It was a good game, i enjoy the heated mediterranean debate. Italian and egyptcian position were reasonable, but spain was not, he picked many unneeded fights. Italy attacking me was mistake since i was commited to never touch his balkans, allowing him to focus elsewhere. Besides that, Britain and Poland were normal. And sorry to Russia, no mistake at all, i just planned before hand to expand on that land, but probably you should had cooperated with ukraine, maybe. Just random toughts. Well played everybody, it was a good game.

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