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Finished: 09 PM Sat 22 Oct 16 UTC
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1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 1000 D - Autumn, 8, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Thechosen41 (3119 D)
20 Oct 16 UTC gg
20 Oct 16 UTC Thx Egypt for not even considering attempting to stop the solo
20 Oct 16 UTC GG. Once my position became unsustainable, I figured I may as well suicide myself against Greece and give him the unbalanced Western situation he asked for. Sounds like he was counting on Egypt to turn on Carthage, but they were longtime allies, and he couldn't do much more than take Leptis even if he tried.
20 Oct 16 UTC What I was counting on was Persia not stabbing me with such and obvious Carthage Egypt alliance. Alas that was not to be. We could had still stopped the solo if Egypt had bothered to move towards Carthage once you went gungho at me (which made it pretty obvious that it was going to give Carthage a gift of a solo with no reaction)
20 Oct 16 UTC I was also a little surprised by the lack of effort to stop me. Greece seemed a little too indecisive to me in the beginning, engaging both Rome and Persia. I had thought that I would be locked in a long time battle with Rome, but thanks to Greece, Rome couldn't handle fighting me and being backstabbed at the same time.
20 Oct 16 UTC Once I had finished off Rome, I was pretty much secured a spot in this game. As you can see I maintained peace with Egypt so I could just focus on one front with my superior power. Also with most of Egypts army committed to the east, I wasn't too worried about a potential quick turn around by Egypt. If anything, I was in a much better position to jump on Egypt. If you look at it. if the game didn't end this turn. I would have taken Crete and Cyrene next turn for a sure win.
20 Oct 16 UTC If you go back to the first couple of years you will see that Persia came after me and I was just defending. He tried to make peace with Egypt too, but Egypt had already chosen you. This left both of us fighting on both fronts while you were fighting on none.

As soon as Rome turned all out on me Egypt had to turn towards you. Not last year, not two years ago. This should had happened 7,8 turns ago and would had surely stopped the solo. I doubt I would had survived anyway because that would had freed up Persia to attack me, but it would had been a three way draw. That is why I am so utterly surprised at Egypt's refusal to read the board and move towards you.
20 Oct 16 UTC If you see year 4 you will see that Persia was trying to turn away from Egypt. He was probably trying to get Egypt to turn towards you. That was the right time for it.
20 Oct 16 UTC Well, there was always some shuffling every turn...i think the catch was that Egypt had position on Persia, Persia was forced to play defensive on his home front. It would have been too big of a turn for Egypt. I am not saying he shouldn't do it, and he should have. All in all, he was in a tough position. if you turns attention to me, he had to pull all his ships back. I would have seen it coming and had ample time to get in position to deal with that. So at best, Egypt goes in a dead lock on with me. But there was no guarantee that Persia won't do any backstabbing. Considering all this, it was a lot to give up for nothing for Egypt, although he should have done it regardless to prevent the solo
20 Oct 16 UTC High-stakes game. You have to try to stop the solo. No matter how tough the decision. And a stalemate would had been enough to allow for a stalemate up north too as you would had had to commit 3-4 units to the south instead of 1 which is what allowed you to completely overrun me.
20 Oct 16 UTC GG. Stupid game of egypt.
20 Oct 16 UTC True. I did have a few units to spare though. my ships in the back were quite useless at the end haha

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Carthage
Thechosen41 (3119 D)
Won. Bet: 200 D, won: 1000 D
18 supply-centers, 15 units
Persia
josemurc (28756 D)
Survived. Bet: 200 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Egypt
Survived. Bet: 200 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Greece
guak (3381 D)
Survived. Bet: 200 D
2 supply-centers, 4 units
Rome
Amwidkle (4403 D)
Defeated. Bet: 200 D
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