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Finished: 09 AM Tue 21 Jun 16 UTC
Don't Vote Trump
1 day /phase
Pot: 100 D - Autumn, 2010, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Sure. Playing alone without alliance is the best way to win...

Oops. Sorry. Few words stay in my keyboard.

[Others] playing alone without alliance is the best way [you] to win. :D
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Lol peru, not quite what I meant...but florida, do watch out for people who want all sorts of complicated agreements, and who give you ultimatums before y ou even get to know each other.
:g
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Lol peru, not quite what I meant...but florida, do watch out for people who want all sorts of complicated agreements, and who give you ultimatums before y ou even get to know each other.
:g
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: British Columbia : your know your classics : "Divide and rule..."
But Florida and Peru are not really friends...

We are just desesperated to see that you will take Arizona next turn, and Colorado the turn after and that nobody can prevent this...

If you were Florida, who would you ally with now that it is at war with New-York ?
I think the best option is an alliance with Mexico and Peru (and Cuba!)...
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: I'll work with you, I just need to worry about mexico
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Don't know how much help I can be
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Don't know how much help I can be
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Peru, throwing me under a bus...I'm not so bad...
If I were florida quebec and Texas would be my ideal allies right now. I think your advice is a little biased, no?
24 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: I think we should all get along and end this pointless fighting. We need to focus on the real enemies, Europe.
25 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: BC: What you say doens't work. New York and Quebec are strong allies. I think you are the biaised one here :
* The 1st problem is Florida is NewYork (allied with Quebec)
* The 1st problem of Texas is Mexico (see below)
* The 2nd problem of Texas is British Columbia (nearly the 1st at short term).
* The 1st problem of Mexico is Texas (see above)
* The 2nd problem of Mexico is British Columbia (soon the 1st given your fleets that moved against him)
-> They should stop their war and ally all three for sure.
25 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: I think I'm pretty done talking in global chat on this with you. I respectfully disagree with many of your assessments, but what we think doesn't really matter; Florida's going to make his own decisions, as we all must.
25 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Oooooo spooky ghoooooosts says yall talk toooooo muuuuuuuuchhhhhhh oooooooooooooooooooooook
25 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Florida... Who is right ? Me or BC ? You are the best placed to confirm it is me.
25 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Yeah Florida, who's right? Do what you want, or sign over to a larger power? This is why were having this war, Peru, to escape tyrants such as yourself
26 May 16 UTC Spring, 2004: From time immemorial people get rid of tyrants just to get new ones even worse...
26 May 16 UTC Spring, 2004: If you want to be a leader whom people follow with absolute conviction, you have to be a likable leader. Tyrants and curmudgeons with brilliant vision can command a reluctant following for a time, but it never lasts. They burn people out before they ever get to see what anyone is truly capable of.
26 May 16 UTC Spring, 2004: “Voldemort himself created his worst enemy, just as tyrants everywhere do! Have you any idea how much tyrants fear the people they oppress? All of them realize that, one day, amongst their many victims, there is sure to be one who rises against them and strikes back!”
26 May 16 UTC Spring, 2004: “Remember that all through history, there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they seem invincible. But in the end, they always fall. Always.”
26 May 16 UTC Spring, 2004: Ok Quebec... That way :-)
27 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Who stated : "We will fight on the seas. We will fight on the air. We will fight on the beaches. But we will never surrender !"
27 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Answer : un enculé de fils de pute qui va en faire baver 2... Attendez de voir ! :-)
27 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Oh boy.
27 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: He's not bad at this
27 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: It is a private joke with NY ;-)
27 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Peru, you're a very insulting individual and I can't wait to see you out of this game.
27 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Quebec. the guy I am talking about is me. So, please...
27 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Lol, out of context, but...w/e.
30 May 16 UTC Spring, 2005: Can someone explain me what happens ? I feel lonely...
31 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2005: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSODrY9ueoo
31 May 16 UTC Autumn, 2005: :(.
Also, I don't think that's their best work, but even so McCartney in his prime really did have a great voice.
01 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2005: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM
03 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2005: Hi guy. This is just a game but out of this game I'd like to say that the man who plays Florida must really suffers IRL a mental disease. Good for the ambiance to receive true insults from him.
03 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2005: Good grief
04 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2006: http://musique.ados.fr/Frank-Sinatra/Theme-From-New-York-New-York-t199355.html
04 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2006: It is not the good one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btFfXgUdIzY
06 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2006: Gg heartland, it's been real
08 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2007: There is a Mexican player and... HE TALKS !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tVIMFcJFkA
09 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2007: Peru, your people can't dance...
09 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2007: Guys. I finally understood why you hate me. I forget to introduce myself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8
10 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2007: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRBZgOfwK20
12 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2008: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRH5wzCQQw
13 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2008: GG NY.
14 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2008: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=180068#gamePanel

Florida...thoughts?
14 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2008: ...not meant for general please disregard.
19 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2010: Hello guys.

I suggest the Draw-4

I hold the Pacific stalemate and there is another one around Miami.
Florida and I have all the time we need to build this.

* Apalachee (Peru) S Tam ( Florida)
* Tam S Miami (Florida)
* Strait of Florida S Miami

* Cam S Bermuda Triangle
* Sea of Saragossa S Bermuda Triangle

* Gulf of Fonesca S Galapagos
* Honduras S ElSavador

This requires 11 units and we will have 12 centers inside the protected zone.

Good game.
20 Jun 16 UTC OK guys, I'm down to call a draw since you all voted... Bc, good short war, good moves. Florida and Peru, fun war going but we all know it'll never end. And Mexico, you do you
20 Jun 16 UTC Very interesting game. Congratulations to all.
20 Jun 16 UTC GGs all around.
I think we'd have made some headway into your waters...but, at least I finally broke through Mexico.
20 Jun 16 UTC If you'd have just let the turn finish, I'd have been the biggest again...well done, all.
20 Jun 16 UTC That's the largest draw I've seen. Got a little dramatic for a bit, but GG overall. This one changed a lot throughout the game

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Quebec
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
British-Columbia
NewHampshire (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Peru
CptMike (4536 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 20 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Florida
Onegarbageman (701 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
11 supply-centers, 10 units
Mexico
Cbias72 (155 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 20 D
3 supply-centers, 2 units
Heartland
cardboardbox (377 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
California
Stonepawz (320 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Texas
AJPietro (266 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Cuba
winterspice (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
New-York
rockets19 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Conzocool (369 D)Peru (Autumn, 2002) with 7 centres.
cardboardbox (377 D)Heartland (Spring, 2006) with 1 centres.
CoThChrist (137 D)Mexico (Autumn, 2001) with 7 centres.
tmacswizzle (567 D)Heartland (Autumn, 2001) with 8 centres.
jka1509 (100 D)Mexico (Autumn, 2006) with 4 centres.
LordBirds (100 D)Mexico (Spring, 2003) with 8 centres.
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